Command Delay

**Slaists** · 10-12-2004, 21:45

I am fine with the command delay, what bugs me (and it seems like a bug) is that, if I group a number of units into one group. Then group another bunch of guys into another and issue a command to the second group, at times, the first group responds while the second does nothing (even when accounting for decent command lag). This really can screw the situation up...

On another note, I am fine with the new formation management where, once you align units into formation, you can drag them anywhere on the battlefield and they stay in the formation as ordered. I like it better than the MTW ALT+LEFT CLICK system which at times had weird results. Now, at least, if you see that the situation demands the whole formation to change facing: drag on the battlefield and they units will turn.

**ToranagaSama** · 10-12-2004, 22:16

I say again, delay? What delay? Dithering? What dithering?

My units go where I tell, without hesitation, except the calvalry, which take a minute to gather themselves.

How do you guys know, for sure, there's a "command delay"?
I say again, could it be your systems?

**d6veteran** · 10-12-2004, 23:10

Originally Posted by ToranagaSama

I say again, delay? What delay? Dithering? What dithering?

My units go where I tell, without hesitation, except the calvalry, which take a minute to gather themselves.

How do you guys know, for sure, there's a "command delay"?
I say again, could it be your systems?

Well maybe we're all seeing a consistent bug? ;)

I don't think it could be our "systems". The game is running smooth/fluid otherwise.

It would be nice to get some verification though on what exactly the computer logic is that drives this delay.

**SwordsMaster** · 10-12-2004, 23:22

As most of you. I like the delay, except for the fact that the cavalry actually stops if you change the direction of their movement.

Dont like the fact that sometimes the units just ignore your orders (a really looooong delay, or you made up a unit out of the most stupid guys around?)

Love the Horn.

**Alexander the Pretty Good** · 10-12-2004, 23:28

I love the idea, and don't mind the actual delay...

Though unit intelligence is about zero.

*cav unit*
"Hmmm. Since I'm about to crash into the enemy is a satisfyingly devastating manner, I should stop about two yards in front of them and beg them to attack me. Just because you ordered me to attack them again in your haste to end the battle.*

**Psyco** · 10-13-2004, 00:40

Originally Posted by ToranagaSama

How do you guys know, for sure, there's a "command delay"?
I say again, could it be your systems?

With 1 gig of ram? Right....

The fact that it is happening to so many people is proof that it is part of the game (IIRC, the CA said they were going to put it in).

The problem is that without individual unit intelligence, or the ablity to "tell" your units your plans beforehand, it is more annoying than anything else. If your units could charge on initiative (that would accually be a good feature. A toggle for "charge when enemies are _ away" [like fire at will]) the delay would be great and realistic. The fact that your units will only ever do what you precisely tell them (and sometimes they don't do that either) makes the delay bad for gameplay.

**andrewt** · 10-13-2004, 01:17

I don't like the delay. Units in real life have actual brains and initiative. Units in RTW are braindead and you have to babysit them through every phase in the battle. The delay just makes it more frustrating, not more realistic.

**ToranagaSama** · 10-13-2004, 12:52

Originally Posted by Psyco

With 1 gig of ram? Right....

The fact that it is happening to so many people is proof that it is part of the game (IIRC, the CA said they were going to put it in).

That's NOT the way to troubleshoot!

I take the alternative position, I and a couple of others have posted that *we* aren't experienced any "Delays". So, how do you explain this if "it is part of the code"?

Could anyone confirm that you all are aware that you NEED to use "ALT+Left Click" to make the Hasti charge IMMEDIATELY?

Is the "Delay", you're all experiencing, actually the Hasti stopping to throw their spears?

If that's not the case I suggest you all post your SYSTEM SPECS, as there is a distinct trend for Org members to have(...ahhh....TS shifts to PC Speak), less than optimum hardware, in which case it wouldn't be out of the ordinary what you're experiencing.

[I mean I'm having enough trouble acclimating to the new UI, and now you folks are saying there's some *delay* I'm not noticing? I thought the Archers were bad enough!!]