Garrison vs. Public Order questions

[RedKnight]

I've seen various mentions of how garrisons work, but when I Searched I couldn't readily find the below. Help appreciated!

1) 80% is the max amount that a garrison can help Public Order, right?

2) What's the equation for, how much your garrison size affects Public Order?

3) Is it true that only warm bodies count, like in MTW? Not quality of troops, and not number of units per se - just number of warm bodies. (Which means peasants are the best deal in terms of bodies per maintenance dollar.)

[Dorkus]

therother has done some tests on this. check his short investigation of squalor (search squalor in thread title)

He has an exact formula. But my general rule of thumb is to multiply garrison pop% by 12. So if your garrison is 5% of pop, you'll have about 60% order. This usually gets me within 5% of the actual garrison bonus.

I use normal unit sizes. i believe, though i am not sure, you can do the same with other settings. Just scale accordingly.

So at large unit sizes (double the size of normal size), multiply pop% by 6, at huge by 3, etc.

Personally, I think the game should not scale according to unit size. You lose a lot less pop from unit training at lower unit sizes -- it should be harder to control cities in compensation.

On the other hand, in the late game, you want to lose or transfer pop, and of course that is far more difficult at smaller unit sizes.

[therother]

therother has done some tests on this. check his short investigation of squalor (search squalor in thread title)

Indeed he has, you can find it at the bottom of this post. But the relationship, whilst being very close to linear over a wide range of values for 'normal' (garrison/population) ratios, is in fact non-linear.

So both the rules of thumb that Dorkus and I have proposed are probably likely to have similar accuracies. But fear not, they work pretty well, all things considered. (+/-5% in the main)

[Oaty]

1 unit of peasants keeps 1000 people happy

So If you have a population of 8000 you want 8 units of peasants in there for the full 80 percent bonus.

Since 20 units is max once the population goes over 20,000 you can no longer get the full 80 percent bonus.

As far as quality it does'nt seem to matter as far as I can tell

[RedKnight]

Right, thanks therother and Dorkus - the equations worked great. Therother, I plugged it into a spreadsheet and checked a good dozen points, everything was good to within what one can tell with the 5% rounding, including with an adjustment for Normal unit size. I even made a table - 10% to 80% X 1k to 32k population - and right down the 80% column is what you said, Oaty.