Another stupid bug

[GFX707]

When you have reinforcements (non-AI) waiting to enter the battle, and the AI withdraws (i.e you hear them going "retreat" and then they walk off the map) sometimes they walk into your reinforcements.

The withdrawing enemy units then get stuck on them (and start killing your reinforcements who don't fight back) and you end up either having to run your army across the entire map to get them or take unecessary losses.

Please take note CA

[Turbo]

When you have reinforcements (non-AI) waiting to enter the battle, and the AI withdraws (i.e you hear them going "retreat" and then they walk off the map) sometimes they walk into your reinforcements.

The withdrawing enemy units then get stuck on them (and start killing your reinforcements who don't fight back) and you end up either having to run your army across the entire map to get them or take unecessary losses.

Please take note CA. Did you have ANY kind of QA at all on this game?

Yeah, I seen that too but with routing cavalry units "stampeding" over reinforcements and causing casualties. This happens slightly beyond the red line, so I can't take command of the units and can only watch while causualties mount! A bug or feature?

[Oaty]

I've always seen the A.I. (skirmish) route away from these guys. And as far as routers killing you it seems odd as the only routers I've had kill my troops are chariots

[Gregoshi]

GFX707, a nice bug report sandwiched between two insults: "Another stupid bug" and "Please take note CA. Did you have ANY kind of QA at all on this game?" I don't know why CA should be expected to take note of anything with this kind of tone.

A word to all patrons: constructive and helpful comments and criticisms are needed and welcome by here at the Org and, I'm sure, by CA. However, it seems to have become the norm in this forum that every problem with RTW, whether real or merely perceived, must include insults or condesending remarks. Even the tiniest, insignificant things in the game have garnered insults. I read one post in which a title used in the game was called "stupid". That kind of stuff, whether trivial or not, is unwarranted. The total lack of decency and respect shown to the CA employees at times is quite unsettling. Everyone is clamoring for CA to listen to them. Well, they are. We are fortunate enough to have them visiting our forums and reading our posts. Today I saw three of them online here at the same time. Yet their visits to the Colosseum may become less frequent or disappear all together if they are constantly barraged by abuse. It has happened before with CA's visits to these forums. Even the thickest skinned person will get worn down after awhile. We ask our patrons to be civil to each other when posting here. Let's extend that same courtesy to the CA employees.

BTW there is a thread stickied at the top of this forum for reporting bugs.

Turbo, have you tried selecting the unit with its unit card in the bottom, central panel?

[GFX707]

Oh I see, because it's "sandwiched between two insults" it doesn't exist right?


*imagines CA staff member sitting in front of PC crying eyes out at all the nasty words*

[Gregoshi]

* Imagines GFX707 sitting in front of his PC - red faced, foaming at the mouth and screaming at the top of his lungs over that nasty bug.*

[Colovion]

GFX707... do you realize that the devs don't owe you anything?

[Grifman]

Oh I see, because it's "sandwiched between two insults" it doesn't exist right?


*imagines CA staff member sitting in front of PC crying eyes out at all the nasty words*

No because it's sandwiched between two insults who's going to care?

Grifman

[GFX707]

No because it's sandwiched between two insults who's going to care?

Grifman

Well hopefully CA is

[Turbo]

Turbo, have you tried selecting the unit with its unit card in the bottom, central panel?[/QUOTE]

It doesn't work because the reinforcements are on the map yet and aren't available. There is a dead zone slightly outside the withdrawel area that still allows kills. You may have seen when pursuing routed units that you can continue to inflict losses even though your unit is across the red withdrawel line. You can see the bodies piling up but until your reinforcements cross the red line, you don't get control.

[Gregoshi]

D'oh! Sorry Turbo. I wasn't thinking properly - as usual.

[Turbo]

GFX707, a nice bug report sandwiched between two insults: "Another stupid bug" and "Please take note CA. Did you have ANY kind of QA at all on this game?" I don't know why CA should be expected to take note of anything with this kind of tone.

A word to all patrons: constructive and helpful comments and criticisms are needed and welcome by here at the Org and, I'm sure, by CA. However, it seems to have become the norm in this forum that every problem with RTW, whether real or merely perceived, must include insults or condesending remarks. Even the tiniest, insignificant things in the game have garnered insults. I read one post in which a title used in the game was called "stupid". That kind of stuff, whether trivial or not, is unwarranted. The total lack of decency and respect shown to the CA employees at times is quite unsettling. Everyone is clamoring for CA to listen to them. Well, they are. We are fortunate enough to have them visiting our forums and reading our posts. Today I saw three of them online here at the same time. Yet their visits to the Colosseum may become less frequent or disappear all together if they are constantly barraged by abuse. It has happened before with CA's visits to these forums. Even the thickest skinned person will get worn down after awhile. We ask our patrons to be civil to each other when posting here. Let's extend that same courtesy to the CA employees.

BTW there is a thread stickied at the top of this forum for reporting bugs.

Turbo, have you tried selecting the unit with its unit card in the bottom, central panel?

Gregoshi, the frustration being expressed on the ORG is being expressed on the official site, and TWCenter. I'll agree that insults are not constructive, but I do not think that the official silent treatment people are getting is helping matters at all. Take a look at the official site, there are tons of posts from people not able to get the game running without crashes. The bug reports are staggering. If you read through the posts, you will NOT see any posts from the developers or Activision making even a token effort to help or address the situation. I am sorry, but I don't think this is the right way to treat people that are your customers.

[Papewaio]

CA did post here at the Org more often because we were more civil and nice to them then at the Com. I think our standards have dropped and we are seeing the consequences of that with less posts.

Essentially they can either
a) fix the bug or
b) reply to posts about it and get abused.

Which option would you chose?

[Turbo]

CA did post here at the Org more often because we were more civil and nice to them then at the Com. I think our standards have dropped and we are seeing the consequences of that with less posts.

Essentially they can either
a) fix the bug or
b) reply to posts about it and get abused.

Which option would you chose?

Have you seen a post from CA anywhere that indicated that they intended to fix any bug or address the SP problems? You know what they say about making assumptions...