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    Yeah, that's true....you only ever seem to see them in threads about gameplay formulas or congratulations CA, etc. etc.

    Maybe they can't comment without going to Activision or something....

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    Quote Originally Posted by GFX707
    Yeah, that's true....you only ever seem to see them in threads about gameplay formulas or congratulations CA, etc. etc.

    Maybe they can't comment without going to Activision or something....
    I hadn't thought about them needing permission from Activision. I recall a post by one of the developers regarding MTW Viking and the automatic death at a certain age. He mentioned they needed Activision's permission before they could release a patch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GFX707
    ...Maybe they can't comment without going to Activision or something....
    Quote Originally Posted by Turbo
    I hadn't thought about them needing permission from Activision. I recall a post by one of the developers regarding MTW Viking and the automatic death at a certain age. He mentioned they needed Activision's permission before they could release a patch.
    If I recall correctly a fair chunk of the work done on that patch was in the developers own time (after business hours) in the anticipation that they would get permission. A Patch costs money, wages have to be paid.

    I Know the dev's would have wanted to release a perfect game first up,
    but they have a schedule to work to, (a project plan)
    with hard time cutoff dates,
    (just look through the text files in MTW/VI - you'll see notations about cutoff dates all through them)

    NOW
    we want things fixed, some are critical, some are not
    - it is not for me to say which is which.

    In Order to get the devs to WANT to fix as much as possible in the time they will have (which WILL BE FINITE!) we need to cooly and calmly list the bugs,
    1. what happens,
    2. what we expect to happen (but doesn't)
    3. what we can do to MAKE them happen (how to replicate the bugs)

    Saying "this is stupid" or anything insulting will only get their backs up,
    Would you not get offended if your work was harshly criticised?
    Yes?
    Would you be more willing to investigate the problem if someone plainly stated "dude, i tried to do "this" and "that" happened instead"?
    Yes?

    PC's crashing or unable to load the game are almost entirely down to:-
    1. Generic cheap ass components,
    sometimes "non generic" drivers will fix those problems.
    2. BAD drivers,
    and yes they are out there, Nvidia had a rep for releasing unstable video drivers, they seem to have fixed that but i still tend to use their unified drivers rather than the specific ones for my card.
    3. OLD drivers,
    it would AMAZE and ASTOUND you just how many people are using outdated drivers, or even the WRONG drivers for their devices!
    4. Conflicting Software,
    dont tell it dont happen, it happens to me lots when i install some junk shareware or other, I HAVE a persistent problem with my XP machine, one of the old junk pieces of software i regularly uses overwrote some dll's (which it should not have done), and my "program interfaces" are all shot to hell
    - i get Win95 interfaces on lots of software, even XP specific software!


    SUMMARY
    you want bugs fixed? list em in the bug report thread and
    BE CALM,
    GIVE PRECISE REPORTS,
    EXPLAIN HOW TO REPLICATE THE BUG (so they can "see" it on their PC's)
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    Default Re: Another stupid bug

    Quote Originally Posted by GFX707
    Yeah, that's true....you only ever seem to see them in threads about gameplay formulas or congratulations CA, etc. etc.

    Maybe they can't comment without going to Activision or something....
    Maybe they don't care to respond to someone being rude . . .

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