Another stupid bug

**GFX707** · 10-14-2004, 18:15

Oh please. There's more violence and swearing in the saturday morning cartoons that every 10 year old watches. Not to mention that we are here discussing a game that REVOLVES around violence.

**Barkhorn1x** · 10-14-2004, 21:54

Originally Posted by GFX707

Oh please. There's more violence and swearing in the saturday morning cartoons that every 10 year old watches. Not to mention that we are here discussing a game that REVOLVES around violence.

I have 11 year olds - and he has a point Papawoi. You pretty much over reacted here.

**barocca** · 10-15-2004, 00:32

Originally Posted by Barkhorn1x

I have 11 year olds - and he has a point Papawoi. You pretty much over reacted here.

i don't think so

within the guidelines of this forum a level two warning is warranted,
further transgressions would incur a level four (ban)

Further I can assure that in some parts of the world saturday morning cartoons do NOT allow swearing and violence.

This forum is designed to fall into PG13 category,
and to conform to the lowest level of violence and language accpetable under that category,

NO swearing
NO threats
NO stalking

have i made myself perfectly clear?
i have no problems using the moderation tools available to this board if you are having any trouble understanding me
Barocca

**Colovion** · 10-15-2004, 03:08

About the whole "if anyone, blame Activision" ideas - I would have to disagree, to a point.

They were the people who gave CA an extra YEAR in developement to make the game Awesome with almost everything implimented that they could. Heck, there's still things that they only got around to partially impliment but put in anyway because they know the mod community is so great. These things are the code which someone at TWC found for a Blood Mod - code which just needs to be "unlocked" to have it work. In my mind this is an amazing thing on CA's side as it makes it that the game can have blood, but it also makes it so that it needs to be modded in and won't stunt their sales by giving the game a Mature rating. There are also things like the Reflections mod which unlocks yet another piece of code which CA didn't impliment. It seems this one was left out because it doesn't work with some graphics cards, but when it does - WOW CA wanted this game to be amazing and it shows - I think we can cut them some slack right now. I've been pissed off from a number of bugs and oversights - but overall I can sidestep them and pretend they dont' exist for the moment; it isn't easy, but it's possible.

My point is that CA and Activision deffinately know that the game has problems and are well on their way to fixing them. All games and software now adays has patches and whatnot to make it run perfectly (and even then it isn't so). I agree that it's frusterating when a game loses some things as it evolves but hopefully we can adapt to those things or mod them to our likings.

**Gregoshi** · 10-15-2004, 04:58

Interesting information about the blood and reflections hidden code, Colovion. As cool as it is, I'd beware of opening Pandora's Box...

One thing to consider regarding "buggy" software today: go back to your hard drive and look at the folder sizes of some 4-5 year old games in which you did a full install and compare this to the full install of games like RTW. There is a dramatic increase in the size of the programs, graphics, etc. The power of hardware keeps increasing by leaps and bounds every year, but I don't think software development has changed too much in that same time. The more complex you make a program, the more chance there is to introduce bugs and the more difficult it is to test every possible situation. If you doubt the point about testing, just look at many of the bug report threads. For just about every bug, there always seems to be one or more people saying they have never encountered that bug. Maybe that was also the case with the tester. That, at least, is my optimistic take on the subject.

**Duke John** · 10-15-2004, 09:43

Try making a mod and make it as perfect as possible. Make it public and then bet for your Org membership that no one will find a single bug and that you have satisfied everybody.

That CA is making a great game doesn't mean that they can only deliver a perfect product. They do strive for it, but they are only humans. If your mailman delivers you a letter for your neighbour, will you then storm out and calling him a piece of ****? I really hope not or else you might better go live in a hidden valley until you discover the meaning of living in a society.

Besides you could have downloaded the demo before you bought the game. You would have then discovered how the voice acting was. If it really was such a problem then you can only blame yourself for buying a product that you didn't like in the first case.

**GFX707** · 10-15-2004, 12:50

Originally Posted by barocca

i don't think so

within the guidelines of this forum a level two warning is warranted,
further transgressions would incur a level four (ban)

Further I can assure that in some parts of the world saturday morning cartoons do NOT allow swearing and violence.

This forum is designed to fall into PG13 category,
and to conform to the lowest level of violence and language accpetable under that category,

NO swearing
NO threats
NO stalking

have i made myself perfectly clear?
i have no problems using the moderation tools available to this board if you are having any trouble understanding me
Barocca

You can say "cr*p" in a PG13. Saturday morning cartoons like Batman are extremely violent (and a lot include words including and worse than cr*p) but just because it's good guy versus bad guy most people (no offense but especially americans) don't recognise this as violence. Besides, as I said before, RTW revolves exclusively around killing and violence, and if a 10 year old can experience that then why not this? And should they even be here?

I am not trying to stir up trouble but I just think you mods are overreacting here.