Another stupid bug

[motorhead]

Type the word cr*p (I can't believe I have to censor it) into the search engine and you will see plenty of people using it.

sigh...you're missing the whole point. it's not just about "plenty of people using it", it's about discussing things in a non-flaming, non-trash talking environment, so we can focus our energy on the issues. I can plug in f*** into google and it returns +22million hits. Does that justify using f*** on the daily news? would you tell your mother, teacher or boss to "F*** off!" and then explain "well, plenty of people are using it"?

[Papewaio]

Okay for the purposes of teaching I am going to swear.

Now since I grew up on a farm, worked in the mines and am an Australian swearing is about as natural as sand on a beach. But I do minimise my swearing in the boards when I am not ranting.

It is not just the swearing it is the attitude and context in which it is used.

Bloody... swear word or adjective.

My bandage is bloody the wound is still healing. Adjective

Bloody hell that was stupid. Swearing.


Essentially would you use the word and attitude in front of/towards your Grandmother, child, preacher or boss. If not then don't use it at the Org.

[motorhead]

Not to beat this thread to death (too late ), but to counter the "being vocal about bugs is what gets them fixed" argument, here's a quote from a developer about user comments:

Reasoned comments get through the signal-to-noise filter; unreasoned - and unreasonable - rants tend to be treated as the work of monkey typists.

...and...

...we tend to share the details of the wittier/funnier/more trenchant/well argued posts too.

So flinging your muck about the cage doesn't attract developer notice, they flip the page and move on.


Flogging a dead horse,
Motorhead

[GFX707]

Not to beat this thread to death (too late ), but to counter the "being vocal about bugs is what gets them fixed" argument, here's a quote from a developer about user comments:

...and...


So flinging your muck about the cage doesn't attract developer notice, they flip the page and move on.


Flogging a dead horse,
Motorhead

So they'll just ignore the bug in their game completely if theres a little bit of attitude around it?

I am not allowed to be displeased after I paid £40 for a game and found a defect in it that spoiled my enjoyment of it? and if I am then no one will pay attention to my bug report?

back to the car wiring/lamppost thing again.

[motorhead]

@gfx - my deepest apologies. it's so obvious that your "type c*** in a search engine...everyone is using it" rationale is clearly not related to my counter argument that because you can find lots of c*** being used on a search engine, it's no justification. yep, clear as a bell (btw, that's sarcasm. wouldn't want you to get it mixed up, seeing how much trouble rhetorical questions give you)

So they'll just ignore the bug in their game completely if theres a little bit of attitude around it?

- hmmm..that's not what i read, but how you see it. "Reasoned comments get through the signal-to-noise filter" - i.e. braying goats bleating and screaming about a bug gets ignored. If something is a true bug, they know a calm, rational, non-wailing infant, will clearly explain it. Hence, when they see noise (i.e. what you call "being vocal") they tune it out.

anyway, this thread is getting rather redundant, and you obviously just don't get it. continue your pointless rants at me, you'll "win" since i'm just going to flip by this thread.

[GFX707]

@gfx - my deepest apologies. it's so obvious that your "type c*** in a search engine...everyone is using it" rationale is clearly not related to my counter argument that because you can find lots of c*** being used on a search engine, it's no justification. yep, clear as a bell (btw, that's sarcasm. wouldn't want you to get it mixed up, seeing how much trouble rhetorical questions give you)


- hmmm..that's not what i read, but how you see it. "Reasoned comments get through the signal-to-noise filter" - i.e. braying goats bleating and screaming about a bug gets ignored. If something is a true bug, they know a calm, rational, non-wailing infant, will clearly explain it. Hence, when they see noise (i.e. what you call "being vocal") they tune it out.

anyway, this thread is getting rather redundant, and you obviously just don't get it. continue your pointless rants at me, you'll "win" since i'm just going to flip by this thread.

You just said "if you use attitude they completely ignore it". Learn to read!

If something has "attitude" around it it's not a bug? You are not very bright. Your parallel was stupid. There is no rule against swearing on the internet, but there is against swearing on the news. That is why no one swears on the news. YET if you type in cr*p into the search here you will find lots and lots of people using it without reprimands and yet it is only me that gets a warning!

L e a r n t o r e a d!

[barocca]

...yet it is only me that gets a warning!

not true, we have warned dozens, perhaps hundreds of people about it,
if i recall correctly before Pape became a moderator he had his share of warnings too,
Even I got a Warning in my Early days here at the Org,
(i have also had warnings and even thread closures and post deletions at other forums i frequent in the past)

the staff here cannot be everywhere at once,
we cannot read every post in every thread in every forum here at the Org,
we also are players of the game, have real live's, job's, school etc etc,
we try and thats the best we can do.

So we ask everyone to help us moderate these boards by moderating themselves.

I wont get into an argument of "he does it, why can't I?"
because "He" should not be doing it,
and when i see "Him" doing it i will say something about it.


The safest course of action is to not do it. Simple and easy.

[GFX707]

sigh...you're missing the whole point. it's not just about "plenty of people using it", it's about discussing things in a non-flaming, non-trash talking environment, so we can focus our energy on the issues. I can plug in f*** into google and it returns +22million hits. Does that justify using f*** on the daily news? would you tell your mother, teacher or boss to "F*** off!" and then explain "well, plenty of people are using it"?

That was possibly the worst "parallel" in history. There is no rule against using the word "f***" (sigh) on the internet but there is for TV. Lots of people are using the word cr*p here and I am the only one to have got a warning for it.

Please do not try to make any more parallels ever again.