Re: Pre-emptive strike on Rome?
I had a strange experience, and it may have been that I'm using the 1.0 realism mod, but I was playing as the scipii (only roman faction I hadn't tried yet) and fairly early in the game rome outlawed ONE of the other factions, I believe it was the brutii, then the next turn the julii were outlawed.
THEN I saw that I had a chance to be with the rebellion or against it. I chose to be on the side of the senate and faced a few futile attempts from the Julii before I had taken all of italy except for rome and was well on my way to taking the brutii's holdings.
Suddenly, though, a few turns later I was asked to have my leader commit suicide, which I refused to do. So then *I* was outlawed, but with all of my legions out of italy and a sudden lack of funds because I was carrying on several wars at once (because of course, even in civil war the rest of the world was also at my throat) I used my diplomats to try and negotiate peace with rome so I could be better prepared to sack it later.
Strangly enough, they accepted my ceasefire and alliance! That lasted about 6 turns, when they cancelled the alliance on me, but I had enough income by then, having taken out all of the brutii just then and gotten their rich lands, to bribe half of their army away and hold off long enough to get a good legion back on the boot.
So that was an odd situation... but it raises a point, isn't it possible to muck up your rival roman faction's senate missions enough to cause the senate to turn against THEM and create a much more manageable civil war?
As a side note, I owned lands from the black sea to the british isles VERY early in the game this way (though I was so stretched thin several times that my empire almost collapsed) and my production was atleast 4 times that of the closest second nation. Ironincally, my Scipii's then turned around and propped up the wavering carthagenian nation after almost descimating it.(because egypt was about to take over the entire southern med but I couldn't afford/didn't want to fight another war at the time) It was quite fun actually, I sent diplomats/spys/assassins down that way and bought a numidian general, trained up a mercenary force (1 elephant unit, 1 general, 3 cavalry, 2 skirmishers) and with a little creativity and a lot of bribing, conquered and then GAVE carthage all of those lands, accept one, which I use as an elephant recruitment camp. Now they are strong enough to combat egypt (back up from only two provinces) and so I've bought myself about 20 years of time when I'm not really going to have to worry about the lower med.
Oh god I'm rambling now... okbye
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Originally Posted by oaty
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