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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon Appleton
    As Julii, I found wardogs a little too good. Someone said they are all you need to fight Gauls and it is not far from the truth. They kill most unarmoured stuff and nicely tie up heavier stuff for a while. I think the broken thing about them is the regeneration - if they died, the player would save them for when they were really needed and for pursuit.

    Of the historical units, I would vote for archers as most impressing me with their power - they are amazing. Three units can machine gun down a large infantry army sallying out from a city gate.

    I can't say I am that disappointed with any unit, although I did hire a unit mercenary Greek hoplites and found them too slow to be useful as an anti-cav troubleshooter - but then most things in RTW are... They were also rather vulnerable. I would have preferred something like the halberdiers in MTW - slow, but very tough. Maybe the armoured hoplites are like that?
    Most of my armies as the Greek Cities comprise roughly 50% archers and 50% hoplites/armoured hoplites. With a ring of hoplites around 8 units of archers you are practically unbeatable. It doesn't matter if hoplites are slow because nothing can outrun an arrow anyway! It's like a portable omaha beach

    I would not say that archers are "overpowered", just the same in MTW but more effective because less units are so heavily armoured! Watch archers versus peasants in MTW if you don't believe me.

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    Elephants are overpowered. Javelins should be effective against them, but in one of my games two units of velites threw all their javelins to the worst elephant and not one died (elephants that is, my velites got some serious ass whooping after that). Now i modded them a little, less hitpoints and less armour, but they are still very strong.
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    Yutseb Elephants the only unit you ever need.

    They are brutal and Virtually destroyed an entire Thracian army in Custom battle they killed around 700 men losing only 3 elephants
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    But aren't those an easter egg?

    As for over powered units, I have not found one unit to be too powerful. Then again, I haven't really fought elephants. The egyptains were easy though.


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    British Head Hurlers , Urban Cohorts should cost more, Chariots are abit over powered aswell, Horse Archers could be weaken a little by reducing their arrows perhaps, egyptian axe men over powered and last but not least Cav should not be able to brake spear or phalanx units head on.

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    The upkeep of cavalry units is too low; for ex: Roman cavalry only have an upkeep of 110 dinarii. You can argue that the unit size is only 54 men (on huge), but then you have 54 horses, so you should have upkeep costs that are higher than or at least in the range of a legionary cohort (210). Same deal with praetorian cavalry (upkeep = 240) vs. a praetorian cohort (upkeep = 320).

    You could extend this argument to the other factions, but I would suggest letting the nomadic steppe factions with lots of cav have a lower average upkeep. This would reflect their better care for horses and easy access to grazing lands.

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    Urban Cohorts should only be built in Roma.
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    Default Re: Overpowered units.

    Quote Originally Posted by metatron
    Urban Cohorts should only be built in Roma.
    thats a good idea man.

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