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    Well, I crushed the revolt (thank goodness even valour-7 peasants have morale problems). For the first time ever in my RTW career (including about 8 campaigns as various factions), I am going to exterminate the population. I consider this a failure of game design that I am forced to do this but oh well. Now I've got to spend the next 5-10 turns shipping all those units of mine back to cities with appropriate buildings so that I can repair the unnecessary damage to my army.

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    You can get an approximate idea of the level of unrest in the city by looking at it on the strategy map. Generally the option window appears right in front of the city, but if you scroll a bit to the side then you will be able to see it. If the face next to the city name is red, the city will revolt (admittedly this assumes normal taxation). If the face is green, the city is safe to occupy.

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    You can see the unrest level if you use a spy on the city before you attack it. You don't get a breakdown of where the unrest/pacification is coming from, but based on the size of the garrison, you can generally figure it out. Ditto if a governor is having an effect.

    I kind of like it that make, makes spies even more useful.

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    I wish you could find out the unrest level *before* you make this choice.
    Quickly move the screen after the seige and you can see the unrest level - but you must be quick! For some reason it only works sometimes...
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    Kill kill kill...............it's the only way*wipes blood off corner of mouth*.

    Seriously though,the reason i do this is because i still get the benefit of the buildings.The population is now docile and there are still enough of them to recruit from.The income level of the city is much improved if it already had evolved ports and traders/bazaars.
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    Default Re: Occupy/Enslave/Exterminate options

    Quote Originally Posted by sapi
    Quickly move the screen after the seige and you can see the unrest level - but you must be quick! For some reason it only works sometimes...
    It works when you initiate the attack. However, if the garrison sallys or relief army attacks you during the "auto-moves" of computer controlled factions, you can't move the display out of the way.
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    The last thing I wanted to do when taking a city is exterminate the population. But I've realized you simply have to do it, and do it often. It makes the game so much easier. I think it's a bad design of the game to force you to keep exterminating populations, but that's the way things are right now.
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    If I had a hard time capturing it (over like 200 casualties) I massacre the pop for revenge.
    If not I enslave or Occupy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hurin_Rules
    The last thing I wanted to do when taking a city is exterminate the population. But I've realized you simply have to do it, and do it often. It makes the game so much easier. I think it's a bad design of the game to force you to keep exterminating populations, but that's the way things are right now.
    It's realistic though. When Romans took Carthage at the end of the 3rd Punic War, they went from house to house killing everyone they saw before razing the city to the ground; if anyone survived, they were sold into slavery. That was the Scipii family; a certain member of the Julii family put a huge dent into the population of Gaul in his expeditions there, again by slaughtering villagers during, after, and between battles. I can't think of a famous example of Brutii brutality off the top of my head, but I strongly suspect that they weren't humanitarians either.
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