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    The Anger Shaman of the .Org Senior Member Voigtkampf's Avatar
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    Default Following missiles, watch the games…

    I haven’t managed to pull the following things off:

    1. Follow missiles - The neat command we enjoyed so much in Time Commanders appears to be missing here. The manual doesn’t mention it, and I couldn’t make it work. Is it possible at all?

    2. How do you exchange the retainers from one general to another? I tried click & drag and it picks up the retainer, but I can’t assign the retainer to another family member.

    3. Does the amount of retainers that will provide, for instance +1 management, equals the end result of management increase? Five +1 retainers means +5 total management for the family member? Or is there accumulating limit?

    4. The games were held to honor my deed for the Senat; I clicked the magnifying glass next to the picture, the settlement was brought up, clicked settlement and show on campaign map, and there it is where it brought me; but, alas, the arena was empty, as always… Can you view the games at all? Or was that just a rumor?




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    Quote Originally Posted by voigtkampf
    I haven’t managed to pull the following things off:

    1. Follow missiles - The neat command we enjoyed so much in Time Commanders appears to be missing here. The manual doesn’t mention it, and I couldn’t make it work. Is it possible at all?
    From the intro video it would appear it's possible, but I havn't been able to get this working either. maybe if you click middle mouse butten (or wheel) which zooms you in on the action it follows the missiles, if you have atrillary or archers selected.

    Quote Originally Posted by voigtkampf
    2. How do you exchange the retainers from one general to another? I tried click & drag and it picks up the retainer, but I can’t assign the retainer to another family member.
    The family members must be in the same stack on the campaign map, and must have space for the new retinue members, 8 is the max. Also, some don't seem to be transferable at all, but most are.

    Quote Originally Posted by voigtkampf
    3. Does the amount of retainers that will provide, for instance +1 management, equals the end result of management increase? Five +1 retainers means +5 total management for the family member? Or is there accumulating limit?
    The results are cumulative. Having =1 command from a priest, one from a veteren centurian, one from a turncoat barbarian and one from a historical figure add up to a geat commander. Retinues can make even the worst generals great governers or commanders.

    Quote Originally Posted by voigtkampf
    4. The games were held to honor my deed for the Senat; I clicked the magnifying glass next to the picture, the settlement was brought up, clicked settlement and show on campaign map, and there it is where it brought me; but, alas, the arena was empty, as always… Can you view the games at all? Or was that just a rumor?
    I've never made this work either, infact I wasn't even aware of the rumour
    I was trying to find some help in the ancient military journals of General Tacticus, who's intelligent campaigning had been so successful that he'd lent his very name to the detailed prosecution of martial endeavour, and had actually found a section headed "What To Do If One Army Occupies A Well-Fortified And Superior Ground And The Other Does Not", but since the first sentence read "Endeavour to be the one inside" I'd rather lost heart.

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    Clan Takiyama Senior Member CBR's Avatar
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    Default Re: Following missiles, watch the games…

    You can follow a unit with the camera by hitting delete key (or did I change the default for it..cant remember) If a missile unit is firing you will follow the missiles.


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    Default Re: Following missiles, watch the games…

    Thank you for your quick replies.

    I’ll try the DELETE button right away, CBR. Thank you for this hint.

    Thank you, Sociopsychoactive

    As for the changing retainers, I’ve had two family members in one city; one had an entire horde of retainers, the other had none. I tried to transfer some from one to the other, but it didn’t work. The retainer in question was someone with management bonus. Peculiar.

    Also, I was interested if several retainers of the same kind would have an accumulating effect upon the family member, or not; it should be obvious that, having three different retainers, their effects would add up, but if I pile up five mathematicians on one single member, will he have five times the management increase or only one time?




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    Default Re: Following missiles, watch the games…

    I havent found that you can have two retainers of the same kind. When you try to transfer them with 'drag and drop' they just pop back into their original spot.
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    Default Re: Following missiles, watch the games…

    Quote Originally Posted by CBR
    You can follow a unit with the camera by hitting delete key (or did I change the default for it..cant remember) If a missile unit is firing you will follow the missiles.
    Does it work ?
    I tried it once and it did not work, but it was perhaps I did change the config or something.
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    Clan Takiyama Senior Member CBR's Avatar
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    Default Re: Following missiles, watch the games…

    Yes it does work for me. Try it a custom battle.


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    Default Re: Following missiles, watch the games…

    Well, I've successfully transferred one retainer to another member, and can't figure out why it didn't work before… Thank you for the info on the fact that you can’t even transfer two same retainers on one family member, saves me the effort of testing it out myself.

    As for the DELETE button, it works, but since I have only followed cavalry and infantry with the said button (lock on-view) I didn’t know that I can follow missiles as well when hitting that button.




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    Default Re: Following missiles, watch the games…

    As far as retinue members they can never have more than 10 of either management inflence or command. But I do'nt think I've seen more than 5 management so not to sure if 10 is the max, but I've definatlely seen a 10 influence/10 command general.

    If 10 management points is possible, I'd like to see what they could boost the income by in one of your best cities, you could easily gt an extra 1000 denari all the way up to possibly 3000.

    As far as the games go it was said before the release of the game that you could watch the cities and watch the games. My guess is time got pressed short and it either got canned or it will be in the expansion pack.
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    Default Re: Following missiles, watch the games…

    You can definitely watch the cities. Go to the construction page, then hit the little scroll icon (which breaks down the happiness/growth factors), and on that big scroll there is a small icon (has a magnifying glass in it) that is for viewing the city.

    As far as watching the games, I don't know. I tried viewing the city during a game (had games set to "daily", complete with the arena icon on the strat map), but didn't see the games.

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    Default Re: Following missiles, watch the games…

    Quote Originally Posted by voigtkampf
    As for the DELETE button, it works, but since I have only followed cavalry and infantry with the said button (lock on-view) I didn’t know that I can follow missiles as well when hitting that button.
    You do but after they hit you fly back to the archers for the next volley ...
    Quote Originally Posted by oaty
    If 10 management points is possible, I'd like to see what they could boost the income by in one of your best cities, you could easily gt an extra 1000 denari all the way up to possibly 3000.
    Yes its possible. With a shed load (5?) of retainers all giving 10% bonus to trade, my 7 scroll govener doubled Athens profit from 4000 to 8000D (H/H)

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    Default Re: Following missiles, watch the games…

    Quote Originally Posted by voigtkampf
    Well, I've successfully transferred one retainer to another member, and can't figure out why it didn't work before…
    Its related to the type of retainer, & possibly the stats of the family member you are transferring to. I've come across certain retainers that can be passed on ad-infinitum, but others you simply can't shift, with luck someone may investigate.

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