I miss GA mode!

**Midnight** · 10-18-2004, 21:15

I concur - my Parthian campaign is probably not going to see a proper conclusion for the simple reason I don't want to be forced to conquer Rome in order to win every single campaign. Certainly, it's important, but not that important to the various far-flung factions.

**Servius** · 10-19-2004, 01:54

yeah, it's a very Roma-centric view to assume that the ultimate goal for all of these civs was Europeans domination AND owning the city of Rome. Rome was only the center of the universe to Romans. The Brit/German intro scene makes it pretty clear those folks would have been perfectly happy to just continue controling their own lands.

**Alexander the Pretty Good** · 10-19-2004, 02:35

CA, give us GA!

Please?

**Thoros of Myr** · 10-19-2004, 03:53

There is hope for some other ways to win...here is what Jerome said in the RTW mod forum...

Will it be possible to mod in MTW-style 'glory goals', or at least (heavily) mod the victory conditions of Rome?

'Glory Goals' not, but you can change the victory conditions. They are in the descr_strat.txt file, near the top. There are a bunch of undocumented ones which do not involve becoming emperor, for campaigns where it is not appropriate. I'll look into digging out the exact syntax.

**Encaitar** · 10-19-2004, 12:32

Regions all have a 'Truimph Point Value' assigned to them. Not sure whether this is a relic from an intended 'GA' style game mode, or whether it can be utilised somehow in victory conditions.

**Bob the Insane** · 10-19-2004, 12:52

One of the most useful elements of GA was you need which provinces the computer would fight to the death for and never surrender...

I do miss GA mode, but seeing as they never got it 100% functional it is not surprizing it is absent from RTW...

Finally as the Wonders are prebuilt, what GA's could you have?? Trade, Homelands and Conquest.... The trade ones were always a bit dodgy anyway so that just leaves Homelands and Conquest which is pretty much what we have got...

**lancelot** · 10-19-2004, 13:33

Originally Posted by Bob the Insane

One of the most useful elements of GA was you need which provinces the computer would fight to the death for and never surrender...

I do miss GA mode, but seeing as they never got it 100% functional it is not surprizing it is absent from RTW...

Finally as the Wonders are prebuilt, what GA's could you have?? Trade, Homelands and Conquest.... The trade ones were always a bit dodgy anyway so that just leaves Homelands and Conquest which is pretty much what we have got...

Well, that is another point, with this new engine, you would think CA would have fixed past problems AND made new intersting scenarios.

**Lord_Winter** · 10-19-2004, 13:34

I...miss GA mode too...

However what should have been in this game is periodic glory goals which changed each decade or so depending on how the fractions historically evolved...

Since it is only war now I havent reached the 200 BC as of yet since 140 turns have so far been enought in all short campaigns and the long ones are far to demanding time wise for my taste...

Bring back the possibility to play peacefully...and win...

/Christian...who dislikes fighting when money can solve the problem...