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    ...and posted in the guide forum. A link for the lazy.
    Frogbeastegg's Guide to Total War: Shogun II. Please note that the guide is not up-to-date for the latest patch.


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    Typing from the Saddle Senior Member Doug-Thompson's Avatar
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    Can't wait to see what you say about phalanx.
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    Phalanx is one of several aspects left 'in research' with only a cursory note in the guide. I decided it wasn't worth delaying the whole guide for the sake of a few paragraphs on a couple of subjects.
    Frogbeastegg's Guide to Total War: Shogun II. Please note that the guide is not up-to-date for the latest patch.


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    Impressive work, Frogbeategg. That was the first I've heard of the spy and diplomat travelling together. The economic advice was first-rate, too.

    Spears in general are just confused and confusing right now. Glad I'm not an infantry player.

    I am a little confused about one point: There's no penalty for archers in deep formations -- except they kill their comrades who are in front of them?
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    :sips tea, takes feet off desk and and starts to think RTW again: In MTW and STW archers deeper than two ranks in close formation, or three ranks in loose, had an accuracy penalty becasue the guys in the front of the formation blocked their view. If you had the unit set up deep enough you would see that the people in the back didn't even shoot.

    In RTW even units that are ten ranks deep will fire with no reduction in accuracy, as in they still do the same amount of damage to their target. The fact they kill their friends is an issue with friendly fire being daft, not a penalty as per those in previous games. Apparantly in STW and MTW the archers could 'see' that there were firends in front of them, and so they wouldn't shoot if they were likely to hit them. In RTW they are totally blind to anything except thier target. That's why missile units are causing so many friendly casualties in RTW. It makes fire at will something of a big gamble.

    Sorry about the typos; I've done some 30ish pages this evening alone.
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    Default Re: Beginner's guide is done...

    Quote Originally Posted by frogbeastegg
    It makes fire at will something of a big gamble.
    Fascinating. Daft, but fascinating.
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    frogbeastegg, nicely done. This is an excellent guide, wonderful work!
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    Is this the proper thread for reporting things which need correcting, Froggy? Or do you want them somewhere else?
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    Oh, bung the usual complaints, suggestions and so on in the guide thread. I thought I'd advertise here in case people didn't pay much attention to the guide forum.

    EDIT: bah, my tired brain. Thanks, khelvan.
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    Wow, a lot of work there froggy. Nicely done!
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    A pint for The Frog!


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    Excellent, my one stop shop for info! Well done that frog! Did spot a typo tho, unless the Cantabrian circle really is being sued by some missile cavalry units! I fully excuse any such mistake. Congrats the first of many guides, i hope, akin to the quality of your MTW ones. Very useful.

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    Thanks, people.

    *Ringo*, lol what a typo! I shall fix that, thanks.
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    Np, usually it's someone pointing out my bad spellig!

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    Quote Originally Posted by frogbeastegg
    Thanks, people.

    *Ringo*, lol what a typo! I shall fix that, thanks.
    "Impressive...most impressive."

    Seriously, this is good work.
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    I know the feeling, *Ringo*.

    Thank you, Captain Fishpants. I really do feel as if I have only just skimmed the surface; RTW has so many unknowns, so many aspects, so many options, and so much to do. I look forward to discovering what I have missed, and seeing what you polish the game into with 1.2.
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    Wow! Once again you have done all of us a great service.

    Kudos go out to you and all those involved with your guide.

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    Yet again another nicely done Guide by Frog.
    Last edited by Lonewarrior; 10-20-2004 at 16:27.
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    Very nice :) I enjoyed your MTW guide so much :)

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