crappy battle speeches

[GFX707]

Why do the non-roman factions always only have like 2 lines in their battle speeches? I loved the roman speeches before the battles....some of my generals would go on for like 5 minutes....but the other factions seem to just have 2 or 3 lines.

any explanation?

[Doug-Thompson]

Why do the non-roman factions always only have like 2 lines in their battle speeches? I loved the roman speeches before the battles....some of my generals would go on for like 5 minutes....but the other factions seem to just have 2 or 3 lines.

any explanation?

"To brave men, a few words are as good as many" -- a RTW quote.

Seriously, I don't know. I was really worried about the Parthians though. It seemed like every speech was a fatalistic warning of doom.

Then I realized: The speeches are tied to combat odds. If you're heavily outnumbered, you're more likely to get a speech telling the soldiers to do their duty before dying.

Never mind that you're a few horse archers who are just about to massacre several hundred peasants.

[Grifman]

Why do the non-roman factions always only have like 2 lines in their battle speeches? I loved the roman speeches before the battles....some of my generals would go on for like 5 minutes....but the other factions seem to just have 2 or 3 lines.

any explanation?

Sure, you have only limited resources when developing a game, hence you put your money where you get your most bang for the buck. Everyone has to play the Romans, but they don't have to play the other factions. So you make great extended speeches for the Romans, less for the other. It may not be the answer you want, but did you really expect something else? Maybe a non-Roman conspiracy on the part of CA, maybe someone accidently deleted the non-Roman speech files?

Grifman

[d6veteran]

Then I realized: The speeches are tied to combat odds. If you're heavily outnumbered, you're more likely to get a speech telling the soldiers to do their duty before dying.

I love that about the speeches! One time when my Romans were greatly outnumbered *and* surrounded. I got a speech that went something like ...

" The Auspices ... well nevermind what they have said about this day ... "

LOL!

I think the battle speeches are great, and it is a shame to start a thread called "Crappy Battles Speeches" when really what you want it more of a good thing right?

[Red Harvest]

I don't mind them that much, although I do get tired of the "Today...is a good day..." Sounds like he is sitting on the couch of some psychiatric doctor discussing his meds. It's the pause and the delivery that really cracks me up.

[GFX707]

Sure, you have only limited resources when developing a game, hence you put your money where you get your most bang for the buck. Everyone has to play the Romans, but they don't have to play the other factions. So you make great extended speeches for the Romans, less for the other. It may not be the answer you want, but did you really expect something else? Maybe a non-Roman conspiracy on the part of CA, maybe someone accidently deleted the non-Roman speech files?

Grifman

Was there really any need to be a smartarse? Don't you think I had considered this?

If this is the case couldn't they have got someone WITH SOME FREAKING TALENT to do the roman voice acting too perhaps? In the face of logic such as the above you shouldn't be surprised I am here asking this question....

[Medieval Assassin]

GFX707 I do not believe he was trying to be a smartarse, its just the truth, everyone needs to play as the romans, and not as the other factions, so why not make it better to play as the romans?
Also, _ALL_ the voice acting in Rome is horrible,
"The day is ouuuu-ou-oarsssssssssssssssss"
I can't believe it Shogun was great

"The enemy taisho has forsaken his honor! AND IS RUNNING LIKE A WHIPPED DOG!"

[Orvis Tertia]

I don't think that all of the voice acting is horrible. At worst, I might give it a C, but come on--think of what "horrible" could mean, and then tell me you really can't stand the voices in RTW!

[Medieval Assassin]

Theres completly horrible yes, but I still can't stand the "Victory is owwwooou-ourrrsss"

[GFX707]

Blame it on america.

[Alexander the Pretty Good]

Thanks alot.

Anyhoo, I get a kind of sick pleasure from hearing the Roman anouncer say that "The day is ours!" because it sounds like he is about 12 years old and choking on a pretzel.

Though I haven't unlocked any of the non-Romans (I'm trying to earn it, short campaign, Julii, hard/medium), I have loved the speeches. Can't wait to hear the others... even if they are shorter.

[Akka]

Hu, well...

Actually, I found the Roman voices quite good.

Just wait to hear Carthage. Just wait, I tell you.

[Medieval Assassin]

The day is ouuuuu-owwwwwwwww-oarssssssssssssssssssssss

[MadKow]

Hmmm.... I just got a "Tedious Speaker" vice on one of my Generals, i wonder if it was because i always cut his speach right at the start and moved to deployment phase....

[DisruptorX]

If you think the Roman announcer on said quote is bad, check out the "generic greek/carthage/whatever other factions use the same voice" guy saying:

"The enemy king/general is Keeld!" The pitch on "keeld" goes up so high and cracks so bad that it hurts my ears.

[Steppe Merc]

All non Romans have shorter speaches? Damn, I thought all factions just had two lines....

Again, the non Romans got jipped.

[crazyviking03]

I love the "your sword arms will ache from over use!"

and, "a better soldier could be found in the latrine bucket!"

[ChaosLord]

Heh, the British speeches focus on one of three things. Gods, blood/killing, or drinking. They have been generally shorter then the Roman speeches, which is kinda annoying but I started skipping all the speeches anyway if it was an old one. One funny thing is one of the times the enemy general routed the narrator/announcer goes "The enemy general runs like a frightened goat! We should catch him and eat him, for goats are tasty." -Or something along those lines.

[Grifman]

Was there really any need to be a smartarse? Don't you think I had considered this?

If this is the case couldn't they have got someone WITH SOME FREAKING TALENT to do the roman voice acting too perhaps? In the face of logic such as the above you shouldn't be surprised I am here asking this question....

If you had considered it, you wouldn't have asked the question because the answer is pretty obvious. Seriously, what did you think the answer was going to be? Your question made no sense. Either it was a conscious decision by the developers due to limited resources, or else they screwed up somehow and lost the speech files or some other such nonsense. Or I guess you could say they were lazy or stupid or didn't care about the other factions, or some combination there of. What answer did you really expect?

Grifman

[Amon_Zeth]

The day is oooooowwwwwaaaaaaaarrrrz!

I have to agree about the crappy voice acting... the Carthaginians/Greeks/Macedonians/whatever have the most bizarre accent. They shouldn't have faked an accent, and should have instead gotten an Arab and Modern Greek accent instead, it might not have been historically accurate, but it sounds better and it's less irritating than what they have now. But I like the battle speeches in general, except that my troops keep cheering when the general says the enemy is going to wait in the forest to come out and slaughter them all, yet, when he says they vastly outnumber the enemy, you can almost hear the virtual crickets chirping.

[ChaosLord]

Oh yeah, the off-timed cheers are funny. "The enemy will try to use the woods to hide their troops and ambush us." *cheer* I'll watch them cheer about being outnumbered, lacking proper counters to elephants/cav, its pretty funny.

[Psyco]

"The enemy general runs like a frightened goat! We should catch him and eat him, for goats are tasty." -Or something along those lines.

It's, "The enemy general runs like a frightened goat! We should pursue him.... goats make good eating!".

[The_Emperor]

Yeah thats a good one. I like this one, "the enemy runs... this is now a hunt, No a Coward chase!!"

I actually really like the Briton speeches though, I got one when I was assaulting the Gauls that started off saying "The Gods know we didn't ask for this war..." It was true because the Gauls kickstarted the whole thing by blockading the port at Londinium.

The Barbarians rule.

[andrewt]

Shogun's fake Japanese accent was so much fun and amusing. I absolutely loved the enemy taisho is fleeing like a whipped dog part. Parthia's fake, I don't know what the hell it is, accent is annoying, however.

On a side note, Final Fantasy X had a big budget but the U.S. version voice acting was incredibly crappy, too. On the other hand, one of Blizzard's vice-presidents did the voice acting for the orc grunt and Diablo by himself and it turned out well. Just shows that budget isn't everything.

[boot]

I dun know!
Realy,some of you people will never be happy will you,i like the speeches some are witty and others tell you what to look out for...but like all ways the game is out and I for 1 am enjoying it

Boot

[Count Fudgula]

I think the speeches are great. I had one general say something along the lines of "It's looking a bit dodgy today lads, so I'm not going to risk my neck. Best of luck!". Of course my ten star ultra ninja general with the great speaker virtue delivers speeches which are quite inspirational *sits in front of PC monitor banging keyboard and mouse together*! I haven't had a chance to try with anything other than the Romans yet though.

[frogbeastegg]

I had one speech in my current Brutii game which was so good it could have been written specially and intentionally for the battle I was about to fight. My famous hero of a general and his small army of hardened veterans against a Macedonian horde of at least 22 full units of light lancers and assorted phalanx troops. I had 11 units, mostly hastati, and it was obvious I was going to be massacred.

The speech lasted for a long time, about two minutes and every single word was so ... apt. My general broke out the old "Friends, Romans, countrymen" thing. He talked of how poor the omens were, but how brave men made their own destinies, and today was a day for great deeds. He accused the Macedonians of fearful cowardice for bringing fully half their army to face my men. He spoke of past victories, of home, of loved ones who they might not see again. Roman pride, and Roman arms, and Roman steel; and how a good death was worth more than a shameful life. Finally he finished on a note eerily familiar from the credits song, "And remember, the Roman Gods are watching - make sure they are not ashamed!"

That sold me on the speech aspect; I love it. It was so hard to believe that brilliant speech had been pieced together from singe lines of dialogue; it felt like someone had written it specially for this battle.

I wish I could have kept a replay of that battle, along with the speech. A salute: to my army, each and every man dead in honourable combat having taken at least one enemy down with each of them.

Today’s lesson: paved roads in enemy territory allow armies to spring up from what seems like nowhere. Use more than two spies to scout.

[fastspawn]

i once got a speech where the general not only spoke to give inspiration, but also dissected the enemy forces, and actually gave quite good advice on how to deal with each portion. I have no idea why that occured, was it because he had a spy in the town? was it because of some VnV he had?

I still have no idea.

Anyway, i saw this speech which was rather funny,

I am known as something of a philosopher. Some ask me, 'Why are we here?' The answer is often complicated... but today we are here to kill all those bastards.

I have yet to hear it though.

[GFX707]

Yeah thats a good one. I like this one, "the enemy runs... this is now a hunt, No a Coward chase!!"

I actually really like the Briton speeches though, I got one when I was assaulting the Gauls that started off saying "The Gods know we didn't ask for this war..." It was true because the Gauls kickstarted the whole thing by blockading the port at Londinium.

The Barbarians rule.

It says that even when you started the war.

[Zatoichi]

That 'the day is ours' thing - anyone else expecting to hear Scooby Doo demanding a Scooby snack right after?

Anyway, I try not to let it bother me too much, I generally enjoy the speeches - especially when you hear the general demanding 'Attack the elephants, men! Kill the pink trunky beggars!' when there are no elephants within 2000 miles...