Captain to General

**TopHatJones** · 10-22-2004, 08:20

I was running low on family members so I decided to give Captain Tiberius a chance to prove himself worthy of adoption.

He won 4 victories in two years. Two of which were Heroic victories and two of which were clear victories that should have been heroic.

He was still not promoted! What does it take?

p.s. I thought I was p!ssed about that, but until he was bribed along with 19 other high valor units, I didn't know the meaning of the word p!ssed. Especially since Gaul was down to two provinces and had been constantly throwing themselves on my armies in vain, they shoulnd't have had NEARLY enough money to bribe that army. If he would have gotten the promtion he deserved it may not have happened.

**sapi** · 10-22-2004, 08:27

I think to be promoted the captain has to get a vice/virtue.

Try using him in combat

**Oaty** · 10-22-2004, 09:15

Even the comps diplomats know how to make them money. Although I always wonder who the donater is to this dying faction. The money does'nt come out of nowhere either as I have been bribing off armies of Egyptians left and right so they ca'nt take the last selucid city. Just making sure the powers stay in check. Even afer 20 years of keeping them safe I look at there financial rating and it appears they are in debt are just a slight hair away from it

**TinCow** · 10-22-2004, 14:09

It seems kind of random. You certainly get better odds by using a captain in battle, but just last night I had a captain adopted who didn't do anything. No battles or anything, he just suddenly became worthy. I'm not complaining though, because I recently lost two of my best guys to the plague and I am desperately in need of some males in the family.

**Jeanne d'arc** · 10-22-2004, 14:32

I didend know that was even possible, i thought it was just a random event.

**Captain Fishpants** · 10-22-2004, 15:29

Originally Posted by Jeanne d'arc

I didend know that was even possible, i thought it was just a random event.

It's not (entirely) random. Try having a captain win a significant battle by a significant margin, and you should be offered the chance to adopt him into the family.

**Horatius** · 07-12-2005, 05:39

The Only Captain I ever got a chance to adopt was a captain in the first campaign I EVER played.

I was the Scipii, and I sent the Captain to win the siege of Athens, and he then defeated two Greek Armies.

I adopted him, and he was very worthy the rest of his life, he didn't get currupt like the rest of the family, or create unrest by entering a city.

He was a "bloodsoaked loony" by the end of his life though, since I sent him to take City after City and do nonstop battles untill he sacked Damascus, was sent to Cyprus and died on the way.

**Krauser** · 07-12-2005, 06:47

Playing as the Julii, I hated waiting for family members to be born and come of age so I frequently sent out captains to take new settlements. I got to the point where I had 20 settlements and 10 family members before more starting being born. In a few turns there were like 5 births, and two captains Man of the hour. I also happened to find a rebel army and bribed the general into joining the Julii family. It got more even after that but there were still times where I had too few family members and just used garrisons to keep order.

**Sir Chauncy** · 07-12-2005, 19:41

Ah young Padawans! You all seem to be overlooking the most obvious: the number of heirs that you have is linked directed to the number of provinces (cities) that you own. I think that you can have a number of generals is equal to the number of completely controlled provinces plus or minus 2 or 3.

As a result. It is entirely possible that you have Maxed Out the number of family members that you can have and the game simply refuses to spawn any more.

Think of it as a servere empire wide lack of... of... of something that rings true with the above statements and is really comical to end the post with.

*phew*

That was lucky, I don't think anyone noticed that you make a total cock up of that...

**M.T.Cicero** · 07-13-2005, 00:42

I played 2 full campaigns (to the ned, not just 50 provinces) and am now to the middle fo the third and I never, ever got a captain to be promoted, how is this possible?

Nevertheless I always have a good number of family members thanks to my hard-working diplomats off in Germania, Scythia, Spain and thanks to fellow Romans Julii and Brutii who's captains are obviously a lot more ambitous (every few turns they get new field-promoted generals, fine 20-year-olds, not very cheap, but worth the price, it's a good way to empty the overflowing treasury and cut down corruption). In my family tree every about fifth person is Roman and it's all swarming of Skunxas and Ugutzs.

**pezhetairoi** · 07-13-2005, 01:35

Ugutz is a new name :-P It's precisely because you have so many factioners bribed over that it screwed up your settlement-factioner ratio, and therefore it becomes now impossible to promote a captain. Try to...stop...bribing factioners, and see if it works again. While I'm on your side--i.e. a mass briber of generals myself, but if you want a MOTH, it's incompatible with your *ahem* diplomatic *ahem* practices.

**player1** · 07-13-2005, 01:43

Originally Posted by Sir Chauncy

Ah young Padawans! You all seem to be overlooking the most obvious: the number of heirs that you have is linked directed to the number of provinces (cities) that you own. I think that you can have a number of generals is equal to the number of completely controlled provinces plus or minus 2 or 3.

As a result. It is entirely possible that you have Maxed Out the number of family members that you can have and the game simply refuses to spawn any more.

Yes that's pretty much true.

Related to this I play a test game with bruti when I didn't conquered any province for 100 years.

One of the thing I noticed is that generals rarely had any childern at all. Somtimes it happends that some generals died from old age before getting any childen.

Luckly usually, when one or two generals die, children start to get born, and marriage proposals become more common.

**M.T.Cicero** · 07-13-2005, 13:17

In the end, whatever you do the game makes sure you have just as much factioners as you need. I'll try bribing less in the next campaign just for the sake of seeing some men of the hour.

PS Ugutz is a redhead Spainard (?) curently in charge of Dimmidi. He likes a drink, but thanks to his couselors is an overall pretty fine governor.