Dogs

[OctavianAugustus]

oh come on guys
the war dogs are NOT THAT GOOD
they are balanced just fine

please play test your assertions before you come postings "i am sure about this " on the forums

go into Custom battle and try out some even matched battles

i had 4 units of wardogs vs 3 units of gaul warbands
and the warbands Creamed the wardogs easily ok!!??

ive played many battles w/ the wardogs and they are NOT UBER ok?
they are medium

wardogs on their own are ripe to defeat

simple unarmoured soldiers can beat wardogs in 1on1 battle
ive never won

BUT...if you send in a group of soldiers vs 2 groups of soldiers
then release the wardogs BEHIND them...you will probably always win

i usually have 2 or so groups of wardogs per stack of soldiers

agian, if i hear anyone say Wardogs are overpowered
IM Going to post agianst you because you obviously have NOT playtested
in custom battle

in 10 battles of wardogs 1on1 vs random infantry units of various factions

the wardogs won only ONCE!!!!

they get slaughtered without proper support

the developers of RomeTW arent that stupid come on guys

agian War DOgs are NOT overpowered

they only tip a battle in your favor if you use them With Proper support units like infantry or calvary

but they do seem however to die less often from friendly fire of arrows...

so if you want your archers to have a little extra time to pick off enemy units...sacrifice some war dogs to bog the enemy down while your archers wear down the enemy....

playtest before you comment....

[Divico]

I never really knew what to do with them. I have some units sitting in towns. Better get them out in the field against the Gauls.

[Warhammer]

I only use them once one of my forces has already engaged a formation. Then they can be fairly powerful since they act as a flank attack for most purposes.

[OctavianAugustus]

what im upset about is that my lovely wardogs get so much flack
i love my wardogs most of all units
and they are mans best friend

anyway where are the crocodiles? *alligators?

i Swear!! i saw a photo of some egpytians unleashing some crocs before this game come out! it makes me so unbelieveably sad to have so much difficulty finding my precious crocodiles....

i even think i saw the photo on the main TW official site?
or was it just a wonderful dream heheheh

anyone else remember seeing a photo of the crocodiles?
i coulda swore the egpytians could recruit them....
well Creative Assembly if u took them out; Put em back in!
i bet everyone else wants the crocodiles tooo

what can be more sweet than seeing a dozen croc's munch down on some peasent rebels

[Khuyildar]

@OctavianAugustus

Indeed. I did a couple of tests myself against several light inf. types, and the dogs always lost. My success with them must have had to do with my good generals then. Under leadership of an inspiring (like the dogs would care) general they are still awesome killers, and they regenerate. So IMO they're a bit über.

When spear warband goes head on against other spear warband and takes heavy losses, money and population are wasted. If dogs lose to warband, they'll spawn back (unless you commit the trainers into melee, which isn't very smart).

So overall the Custom Battle results are quite trivial to me, because I only play custom battles to test things out.

[Ashitaka-san]

I would have to agree that they wardogs should not be able to respawn as they do currently. However, I, like some others here, would not say that they are overpowered.
True, they can rip some enemies apart as their attack is excellent. But, if you face an enemy, especially an armored one, head on, the dogs won't fare so great. Also, the fact they you can't control them after the inital charge definately works against their effectiveness.

[Reddog]

I use wardogs to go after archers other skirmishing units so that i dont have to waste my cavalry chasing them down and can worry more about the main fight.

[InsaneApache]

IMHO they are most effective when besieging towns/cities as u can unleash them in the town/city and they can run down those side streets and help flank the defender, whilst ur men have to march the 'long' way around.

[OctavianAugustus]

great ideas guys ... ill try to unleash my doggies on a siege next time

my only city expierance w/doggies is on defense

after your archers run outta ammo u can unleash the doggies to do a little extra damage while your soldiers stay inside safely
*i had about 500men , gauls attacked me with about 1400 men

plus when defending you can sally as many times as you want in One turn! yes one Turn LOL

so in one turn i had about 5 or 6 sallys

i kept the main soldiers inside; used all my arrows....then unleashed to doggies to wear down the enemy

around that 5th sally i caused the enemy to route with no more than 15 or 25 total men lost while the enemy eventually lost over 1000 men

i did lose a thousand doggies overall *and this might be a bit :uber:
so yes, doggies should require retraining to regenerate

it make my one turn 5 sally defense Very Easy to win...took awhile but still defense was Very easy with this strategy....

just wait for the time limit to go out and re-sally agian

i know...Its Cheap huh ?

but as the Romans i WASNT gonna lose a Roman City to those "hairy mad gauls"
so cheap ya but those gauls dont deserve a victory over Rome now do they


lol if you play as gauls im sure you feel that way about Rome huh

*goes to check out cheap tactics using doggies during sieges
lol thanks for the tips guys