Is anyone else bored?

[Red Harvest]

I don't use "bribe" at all....I feel that its an abuse of the AI.

I felt the same way until I played as the Spanish and Numidians on VH/VH. For both, well placed bribes were essential just to survive, because I could not afford an early war as either, and my neighbors were quite aggressive. With other factions I don't bribe.

[Bhruic]

I bribe just to keep down the number of pointless combats. I mean, how many times can I have my city with 1000+ man armies sieged by 200+ units? It just gets absurd. Big armies I'll fight, but all the little ones running around I just bribe now, so I don't have to waste my time. Plus it cuts down on the number of stars my generals get for those pointless battles.

Bh

[Sin Qua Non]

Hmm.... my interest is waxing and waning now.... I'm about 60% ready to start a new campaign... it may be time to screw with some files. Some haphazard modding should spice things up!

[Nestor II]

Well, I believe I know why I'm not that excited:

I have to help the poor AI stand on its feet, I have to calculate my movements in such a way that I get strong opposition. In fact I feel that I'm playing for both my faction and the AI, at least on the strategy map.

Don't think you can have fun playing for both sides, you can't have surprises this way!

Don't misunderstand me, I think it's a great game but I believe it's targeted on new customers / players and not the old fans of the series.

If only I could teach the AI some things!!!

[Ism8000]

They should add a place FEATURE WHERE you can design your own throne like in Civ1 or something like that more personal gratification also they should of made governing citys easier and more Bandit army appear also they should of made the guals and britons un-united there too storng and I whant more realism.

[Didz]

Must admit the lack of a proper PBEM multiplayer option on TW games is beginning to show now.

These games ought to be the mainstay of a whole new breed of internet wargaming groups but that market is just toally excluded from using TW games because of the lack of a proper MP option.

CA really need to overcome this problem and find some way of allowing multiplayer involvement in the full campaign, even if they have to sacrifice some of the gimmicks to allow it.

[ah_dut]

I just feel that the AI and other features have been dumbed down too much. I could play MTW for months and not feel the time... Now I have tried 1 or 2 games of MP and am never going back. some people flame and cheat. I'm not much of an MP online person myself, prefering lan parties, but I've given up on this game in many ways. Oi'm bored. that and the fact the battlefield AI is stupid in the extreme.

[Bob the Insane]

Thinking about this issue... In MTW even after many, many, many campaigns... It was still possible to have my arse handed to me by the AI...

If you screwed up strategicly or tactically the AI (game) was capable of giving you a sound thrashing.... I am not getting this feeling from RTW..


In RTW if you screw up strategically or tactically you either have enough available cash to buy your way out, or you don't and you are doomed...

It is very binary.. Run out of cash and get beaten in battle and it is game over in the early part of the game. Get to the point where you have a positive cash flow and you can just about always buy your way out of trouble... And if you are play a VH campaign game you practically have to bribe as the other factions get such a cash boost they are building way more troops than is possible for you in way more advanced buildings... So you either face impossible battles where you are outnumbered by more advanced troops that might also be getting combat bouses too, or you start bribing these armies into non-existance and make the game really easy...

Maybe a game where I barred myself from bribing would be a better experience....

I have started a Hard (campaign) / Medium (Battle) game as an experiment to see if I get a more believable experience... (So the AI does not get a huge cash advantage or combat bonuses for it's troops)...

[Ktonos]

RTW is better than MTW and STW in all aspects. If there are some stepbacks, they are inevitable, because they had to be done in order for other aspects to get better.

There are many flaws that keeps the game from perfection, but that does not mean that those flaws make RTW worse than its prequels.

The major problems of STW and MTW were unexisting diplomacy and that from a time point and after factions got eliminated one by one from the 2 or 3 major factions of any given campaign. That ended in having the map divided to those 2-3 factions and tens of stacks in bordering regions.

In RTW diplomacy is a *lot better* (but it still can get *a lot better*) and you don't have the phenomenon of continiously eliminated factions.


The think that is missing is that some things are ahistorical. In history to have infinite money meant that you could support huge armies but it did not meant that you could train infinite armies. Thats the case of RTW. Human resources were limited especially for the civilized factions.

Any given faction was difficult to muster more than one or two huge "stacks" of armies and at the same time maintain "stacks" of armies as garissons in the cities.

Greeksare more than easy relating to history. I can invade Italy and do not worry if my army disapears into nothingness because I have 200000 D in my pockets and can create another army whenever I wish too. When I capture an Italian city I don't have to split my troops and post a garrison there, because I can create a new garisson from the italian citizens.


Proposition:

1. Make for every man taken from a city for training a unit, 1-4 other citizens (his family) grow unhappy as time passes and the man is not disbaned back to its city. Every unit can have an origin template in order the player knows were to disband it (eg Athenian Hoplites, Capuan Hastati).

2. Make factions unable to use military buildings of other cultures. Eg. I conquer Capua as Carthage. There is a Legion barracks there but I cannot use it to train Carthaginian units, because its a legion barracks. I should destroy it and build barracks of my own culture tree.

[Jango Fett]

nice to see people in the TW community are also into flight sims such as il2! i actually play this when im bored of rtw

[Sp00n]

The game is far easier to complete than MTW which is why you get bored faster, its half finished and subsequently has lots of bugs, the standards agency should set up stricture guidelines on games, unfinished and buggy games should not be released and IMO fines should be imposed, it will never happen but how many games do we get that are not totally completed and bug free these days.

You may argue that this will always happen, but thinking back to games of the past they used to be released largly bug free, have developers got lazy or what.

To think we have to wait for the patch and probably even the expansion to play a completed version of Rome is an appaling thought, its like buying a car with half the insides missing.

Bear in mind this is there 3rd attempt and its the worst attempt in terms of bugs and missing features.

The games reviewers should also have a part in thier reviews showing howing complted a game is Id give Rome 75 percent completed on SPand 15 percent on MP.

Sp00n

[Thrudvang]

One thing that annoys me is when people blame the developers for bugs.

It's the publishers fault, people.

[Sp00n]

Well they are both to blame at the end of the day they pass the game on in its uncomplted form.

If they spent less time on shiny new graphics and more time getting the gameplay right we woulnt be moaning.

[MacBeth]

I don't really ever post but I agree with most of the sentiments expressed.

I knew the game had lost me when on my 3rd campaign I began to auto resolve battles. I never used auto resolve in MTW.

Are we all sure that this series can become a great diplomatic game? To me MTW was a battle fest and the best of its kind. If I want good diplamacy I play EU2 or other Paradox stuff.

I was hoping RTW would give me a 'classical' battle fest and didn't really expect anything from the diplomacy side. Well they've even managed to bugger that up haven't they.

I don't think CA are as much to blame as the 'suits' from Activision.
Publishers don't have customers they have balance sheets.

All the best.....

[Belenus]

I bribe just to keep down the number of pointless combats. I mean, how many times can I have my city with 1000+ man armies sieged by 200+ units? It just gets absurd. Big armies I'll fight, but all the little ones running around I just bribe now, so I don't have to waste my time. Plus it cuts down on the number of stars my generals get for those pointless battles.

Bh

Sorry to go a little off topic but I agree. Also, I ALWAYS bribe german spearmen. When I saw them do a 360 turn against my infantry coming from behind almost instantly, I gave up.