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[hellenes]

First THE MOD ROCKS!!!!
I think the CA should hire you guys so they make some proper games....
Are you planning anything about the "egyptians"?
Please make them logical in the present condition i feel like im a retarded 10 yeras old...
Also Can Someone PLEASE make the pikemen to hold their 22 feet pikes WITH BOTH HANDS?
Keep the good job...

Hellenes

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

If they have shields like that they shouldn't get shield bonuses... Unless this is a special coward shield for retreating :)

ROTFL This one is priceless...

[Dead Moroz]

I think the CA should hire you guys so they make some proper games....

Would you talk to them about me?

Are you planning anything about the "egyptians"?

Planning... But do you maybe want to join our team to make this job?

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

1 U are right to me but Urnamma asked them to have like this ...

Please, PROMETEUS!!

Linen Armour + Shoulder Straps = OK

Metal Cuirass + Shoulder Straps = NOT OK

If everyone else has a different oppinion, at least make the shoulder straps be made of metal, like in Augustus statue...

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

First THE MOD ROCKS!!!!

Thank you in name of all the EB team.

I think the CA should hire you guys so they make some proper games....

HE!HE!HE!

Well, Dead Moroz has a different oppinion than mine. I would not be able to work under the tyrannical pressure of Activision's vision of the world...

Are you planning anything about the "egyptians"?
Please make them logical in the present condition i feel like im a retarded 10 yeras old...

Yes. Fancy New Kingdom Egypt headresses are going the way of the dodo. They are being remade from the ground up. Stay tunned for more...

Also Can Someone PLEASE make the pikemen to hold their 22 feet pikes WITH BOTH HANDS?

Very complicated, but we are going to try it.

Keep the good job...

Hellenes

Thanks again. We will.

[Urnamma]

About the Sacred Band cav...

The shield is in the correct position, and they should not get a shield bonus. The Sacred Band used the Xyston, which as we all know, utilized two hands. The shield was used when they dismounted and fought on foot with their swords. It was slung across the shoulders when they were on horseback. Also, with cavalry warfare, you are often exposed from the back after a charge. The shield will help protect from a shot to the back. You don't charge at a line then stop at the front, you charge into a line and go into it

Aymar, you're right about the muscle cuirass. The straps should be removed.

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[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

Aymar, you're right about the muscle cuirass. The straps should be removed.

Thank you so much...

Have you heard that, PROMETEUS? Start working!!!

[PROMETHEUS]

I would like to see the reference of this muscle cuirass can I so otherwise I could change them to linen wich is more appropiate to me.....

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

I would like to see the reference of this muscle cuirass can I so otherwise I could change them to linen wich is more appropiate to me.....

That is up to the group historians like Urnamma. Discuss it with them.

[Urnamma]

Prom: Plutarch gives us that account, for one. Xanthippus noted the amount of metal armor in the Armory in Carthage, as well.

[PROMETHEUS]

That is for theSacred Band befoure the time line , I doubt that ....If it ever surviìved they would use the metal , also we shouldn't use themat all , if we need an eliute phalanxe we should find something else I gues...

Can I see this passage tough?

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

That is for theSacred Band befoure the time line , I doubt that ....If it ever surviìved they would use the metal , also we shouldn't use themat all , if we need an eliute phalanxe we should find something else I gues...

Which historical alternative had you in mind?

If you look closely, SBI isn't that far fetched for our time period. They are only a couple of decades of.

[DemonArchangel]

Well, i'm too lazy to dig up Palestinian clubmen, but Aurelian used them against the palmyrans, so, yes it's way off.

What about the property free legions (Pre Marian)?

[Stormy]

Well, i'm too lazy to dig up Palestinian clubmen, but Aurelian used them against the palmyrans, so, yes it's way off.

Demon!

No proof then

[Steppe Merc]

Also I want to say that this Sacred band should be available by beginning and be not buildable again so will bea unit destined to extincion since so was historically ....I want to know what to use for the phalanx too ... also Urnamma described another elite unit the Afrivcan unit so there is another elite unit.....

I disagree. They probably went on longer than when they were last recorded, and where probably only discountined due to fininacial difficulty. If the player can keep up the finacialness of the empire, can't they continue with the Sacred Band?
And besides, what would the Sacred Band be replaced with? What sort of heavy cav, or phanlax would replace them?

[Dead Moroz]

Well, Dead Moroz has a different oppinion than mine. I would not be able to work under the tyrannical pressure of Activision's vision of the world...

Is it worse than working under tyranny of band eager for 4 turns per year and lots of microregions?

[Dead Moroz]

Excuse me my bad English. What are you talking about? Who are the Palestinian Clubmen? Is it guys spending time in night clubs in Occupied Territories?

[Urnamma]

Sacred Band Cav and Inf are two different units. While the existence of Inf for our period is sketchy, cav was there until around 170 B.C. when the temple of Astarte wen't bankrupt, so to speak (they no longer had the infrastructure necessary to keep up the heavy cavalry).

[Stormy]

Excuse me my bad English. What are you talking about? Who are the Palestinian Clubmen? Is it guys spending time in night clubs in Occupied Territories?

good one.

[PROMETHEUS]

Sacred Band Cav and Inf are two different units. While the existence of Inf for our period is sketchy, cav was there until around 170 B.C. when the temple of Astarte wen't bankrupt, so to speak (they no longer had the infrastructure necessary to keep up the heavy cavalry).

Can I read this infos? mostly about the iron cuirass on horsemen?

[Odysseus]

I havew proof of Palestinian Clubsmen. And various other links:
Here' another one: Click Here And here are some interesting sculptures:
Sculptures

[PROMETHEUS]

In the meanwhile look the new revamped equites.....

[Somerled]

Would the Palestinian Clubbers have the unique ability to enter an Ecstacy and alcohol induced rage to smite the Roman invaders?

Seriously though, even assuming these killer clubbers ever existed, Palestine did not emerge as a region until well after the game's timeframe. In 135 CE, after smashing the Bar Kochba revolt, Hadrian wanted to forget about all the troubles associated with "Provincia Judaea" and so renamed it "Provincia Syria Palaestina."

If you wanted them to be Philistine clubmen, who are the origin of the term Palestine, then this is well before the time of the game.

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

Is it worse than working under tyranny of band eager for 4 turns per year and lots of microregions?

Oh yes!!! Much, much worse!!

This one was a democratic decision...

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

Excuse me my bad English. What are you talking about? Who are the Palestinian Clubmen? Is it guys spending time in night clubs in Occupied Territories?

LOL!!!

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

I havew proof of Palestinian Clubsmen. And various other links:
Here' another one: Click Here And here are some interesting sculptures:
Sculptures

Historical excerpts, not miniatures...

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

In the meanwhile look the new revamped equites.....

Kepps getting better, PROMETEUS!!!

Great work!!!

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

Would the Palestinian Clubbers have the unique ability to enter an Ecstacy and alcohol induced rage to smite the Roman invaders?

LOL

Seriously though, even assuming these killer clubbers ever existed, Palestine did not emerge as a region until well after the game's timeframe. In 135 CE, after smashing the Bar Kochba revolt, Hadrian wanted to forget about all the troubles associated with "Provincia Judaea" and so renamed it "Provincia Syria Palaestina."

If you wanted them to be Philistine clubmen, who are the origin of the term Palestine, then this is well before the time of the game.

Yes, even if real, they are out of timeframe.

[Odysseus]

Those miniatures are good enough! I'm insulted. On a lighter note, can I join the research peeps for your guyses mod?

And where did you get the tools to do that?

[Urnamma]

Miniatures are not good historical evidence, because their interpreation could be wrong. Primary source evidence is best, scholarly evidence is second best. Miniatures... only if backed up by the better evidence. Find us a text and we'll believe you. Also, Palestinian clubmen, even if actually used, would still be too late for the timeframe.