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    Quote Originally Posted by PROMETHEUS
    Are all those gallic units realistic ?
    Yes, to the best of our knowledge.

    Quote Originally Posted by PROMETHEUS
    I have never heard of Daemons, ravens or sea of spear units where did u took all this info? U used the Bello Gallico? or somewhere else?
    since I don't remember those even in this book....

    All my research was posted and discussed to death at the .com about 2 years ago. Unfortunately it has been lost since, but I still have many of the books used.
    The sources are from a whole myriad material, several dozen books by contemporary authors, archeological, anthropological and historical journal articles, and ancient texts including private letters. Basically anything that allows one to garner how the Gauls looked, fought etc within a geograhical context.

    At work at the moment but from memory;

    A) The term ‘black demons’ was garnered from a private Roman letter (describing the enemy encountered during one of the wars against the Celtiberians) and translated into Gallic. The actual description is from two books, can’t remember which ones.

    B) The Raven is mentioned in just about any book one reads on the Celts. The Celtic goddess of the dead would take the form of a Raven and alight on the bodies of the fallen and cart their souls off to the after life. Hence the helmets were worn with Ravens to strike fear in their foe. The Raven Helmets are well attested in the archoelogical / historical record and scholars believe they tended to be worn by either elite troops and / or nobles.





    They are particularly noted around Bibracte the Aedui Capital. The Aedui were the leaders of the Northern Condeferacy from the mid 4th century BC on and pretty much represent the Gaul faction in RTW.

    We know the Aedui had a special Royal guard. From memory there was a reference I found in Irish text which mentioned 'Raven Warriors' forming a special guard to protect an Irish King. So all the pieces were put together and the Aedui Royal Guard were afforded raven helms and called Bodubatae. The name is just the Gallic translation of “Raven Warriors” / plural. Highly likely that such a unit existed by this name but we can't prove it 100%

    C) Same thing for the “Sea of Spears”. The Helvetii, as you would know from Caesar’s works used a form of phalanx formation. It is also attested in other fragments. They were very disciplined and well led.
    The Celts, much like other native peoples tended to call things by names which had a direct meaning eg Boiorix ="king of the boii" , Eburones = "people who are protected by the yew-tree" etc etc
    The Sea of Spears is the most likely Gallic name for such a formation and thus used as a unit descript.
    Last edited by PSYCHO V; 11-23-2004 at 05:50.
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