OK.OK. I got carried away... Sorry...Originally Posted by eadingas
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OK.OK. I got carried away... Sorry...Originally Posted by eadingas
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Keep this one. The Samnites were the ones that made the Romans change their round hoplite shield for this one. They developed this shield after contact with the Gallic tribes that used the oval Gallic shield. The Samnite fighting style, using this shield (scutta), caused the humiliating Roman defeat at the Caudine Forks in 321 BC. This event, and Rome's sacking by the Gauls in 387BC, was responsible for making the Romans drop the Phalanx-style warfare and implement the more all-terrain Manipular Legion (it was based on the Samnite system of warfare).Originally Posted by PROMETHEUS
I made the first white texture for the mercenary , while the other one is more for the national flag of Samnites , I am not sure if they used blue tough since in more representations they are in white dress..... I added this shield type since I saw in a reconstruction , gives colour and is also depicted on a flag carried by samnites so i guess this later one is better for rebel armies.....
but I ask myself is possible to add some more units to rebel list in italian provinces? since those units look more like heavy infantry to me and i was thinking to add also a skirmisher smnite infantry and a heavy cavalryman as saw in the plates ,.... also they would have been one of the major allies of hannibal versus the romans......
but is there any limit to the units we can implement?
final version of the second version...
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Last edited by PROMETHEUS; 11-14-2004 at 14:16.
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I don't think we should discriminate an ancient symbol used sacrifiyng historical correction....but anyway they can be both used , one for mercenaries the other as rebel .....
Ok here is a new try to make a new unit mercenary arab camelriders , more inspired for garamantes warriors of the desert tough......
here is the work in progress , I still have to adjoust severall things.....
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Well, to put it bluntly, using that symbol will make it illegal in Germany at least to play. I do not care to deal with the legal issues involved, do you?
Unless we can figure out a way to make sure that the texture is not reversed, and the ancient symbol does not get turned into a modern symbol of hate, it has no place in the mod, in my opinion.
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Ok herew is the final version of the Garamantes nomads and the desert Garamantes infantry......
what you think???
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Bad ass, Prometheus, just simply bad ass. I've loved both your units so far.
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They look wonderful PROMETHEUSbut can I make a small Request ? Can you add like a brown top/cloak on the Garamantes like the photo you posted in the Numidian thread ?
This one
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Good work, PROMETHEUS!
But don't stop. Please, change 3d model - make proper cloak and shield.
About Samnites I think that "skirt" should be shorter and breastplate should be a bit smaller.
Better don't take the Soldier on the far right as a Unit! :P
My 3dsmax version is not working now so untill I find what's wrong I cant edit them , may be someonels?
Seems I amspecializing in mercenaries so here is a barbarian mercenary foot soldeir how it looks?
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They look very good!!!Originally Posted by PROMETHEUS
Although Stormy's and Dead Moroz's comments are correct.
I would like to add something also.Please correct the curved scimitar. The scimitar was only invented shortly before the early Muslim expansion (circa 600AD). Numidians, Berbers, Bedouins and Arabs used straight medium length swords in this age. You can see exactly that in the pictures you've posted in the Numidian thread.
Last edited by Aymar de Bois Mauri; 11-15-2004 at 17:49.
What do you mean it's not working? Have you instaled Vercingetorix's plug-inn? Is it not working? If you have any doubts about that instalation or MAX, just PM me...Originally Posted by PROMETHEUS
What's wrong with their eyes?Originally Posted by PROMETHEUS
I would like you to delve in the units you think you could improve to make them more like the pics in historical books, as the Osprey series.
They are trying for the role of replacing Michael Stipe of REM :)
I'm still not here
I would like you to delve in the units you think you could improve to make them more like the pics in historical books, as the Osprey series.
sorry my english isnm't so good , this sentence means?
about the eyes is just blue paints , , they dress fur equipment so that they will look more in fit with snow background , i took inspiration by a marcomanni picture in osprey nook and made him more dressed ...
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If they're to be 'generic' barbarian mercenaries, maybe their hair should be brown. It's a more wide-spread hair color than blonde, and fairly 'generic'.
Ní dheachaigh fial ariamh go hIfreann.
It means that that specific barbarian merc, IMHO, didn't need re-styling...Originally Posted by PROMETHEUS
restyle of the scythian leader according to the osprey table scythian king 4th cent. BC
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Last edited by PROMETHEUS; 11-16-2004 at 00:55.
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Damn. That Scyth looks bad ass!
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Just some updates
Southern Warband almost done:
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Tribal Militia still working on:
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Aymar, you want us to send finished Betas to you for dissemination / testing?
looks cool but those shirts with horizontal stripes....where really used by gauls ? I will post some plates there about them too....
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Last edited by PROMETHEUS; 11-16-2004 at 00:42.
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Original Creator of severall add ons on RTW from grass to textures and Roman Legions
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Now I will post some german units.....
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Last edited by PROMETHEUS; 11-16-2004 at 00:43.
Creator of Ran no Jidai mod
Creator of Res Gestae
Original Creator of severall add ons on RTW from grass to textures and Roman Legions
Oblivion Modder- DUNE creator
Fallout 3 Modder
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VIS ET HONOR
OMFG!! they look good PSYCHO V @ PROMETHEUS. You guys are really knocking them out back to back.![]()
I can't wait to be the new Scythians in game now.![]()
This mod will be the best RTS one everand I'm not just saying that.... I really mean it.
Between the new skin/model units and new gameplays to the Map.. This is what I always wanted in a RTS game.. one more time OMFGF!!![]()
The 'Gallic Warriors of La Tene period' would be perfect for Lugian Union faction, or even just the provinces of Boihaemia and Lugiae. Just what we need.
BTW, I love how 'naked fanatics' always wield strategically placed shields on these pictures ;)
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EXCELLENT work!!!Originally Posted by PROMETHEUS
Great skinning!!!
Great work PSYCHO V and Vercingetorix!!! The Southern Warband shield looks far better now...Originally Posted by PSYCHO V
Sure. As long as they have all files working, no problem. We'll just add them to Alpha 0.3...Originally Posted by PSYCHO V
Please PROMETEUS. Keep posting less images in each page of the thread or i'll delete your posts.Originally Posted by PROMETHEUS
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Why post 4th and 5th century AD pictures? It's out of scope of the MOD. At least for now it does not matter.Originally Posted by PROMETHEUS
And, once again, read my previous post...
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