looks cool but those shirts with horizontal stripes....where really used by gauls ? I will post some plates there about them too....
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looks cool but those shirts with horizontal stripes....where really used by gauls ? I will post some plates there about them too....
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Last edited by PROMETHEUS; 11-16-2004 at 00:42.
Creator of Ran no Jidai mod
Creator of Res Gestae
Original Creator of severall add ons on RTW from grass to textures and Roman Legions
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Now I will post some german units.....
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Last edited by PROMETHEUS; 11-16-2004 at 00:43.
Creator of Ran no Jidai mod
Creator of Res Gestae
Original Creator of severall add ons on RTW from grass to textures and Roman Legions
Oblivion Modder- DUNE creator
Fallout 3 Modder
Best modder , skinner , modeler awards winner.
VIS ET HONOR
Why post 4th and 5th century AD pictures? It's out of scope of the MOD. At least for now it does not matter.Originally Posted by PROMETHEUS
And, once again, read my previous post...
becouse where there is no clue of how would look like a warrior of the selected century we can make reference to thje following century , since in tribal siociety the war equipment was heredited in the families so could be even ancient .....Why post 4th and 5th century AD pictures? It's out of scope of the MOD. At least for now it does not matter.
Creator of Ran no Jidai mod
Creator of Res Gestae
Original Creator of severall add ons on RTW from grass to textures and Roman Legions
Oblivion Modder- DUNE creator
Fallout 3 Modder
Best modder , skinner , modeler awards winner.
VIS ET HONOR
Numidian cavalrymen and skirmishers....notice that I removed the saddle.......
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Last edited by PROMETHEUS; 11-16-2004 at 03:24.
Creator of Ran no Jidai mod
Creator of Res Gestae
Original Creator of severall add ons on RTW from grass to textures and Roman Legions
Oblivion Modder- DUNE creator
Fallout 3 Modder
Best modder , skinner , modeler awards winner.
VIS ET HONOR
HE!HE!HE! Great detail...Originally Posted by PROMETHEUS
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Last edited by Aymar de Bois Mauri; 11-16-2004 at 17:38.
Fair enough. But, please, less pictures per page. Some people do not have broadband...Originally Posted by PROMETHEUS
OMFG!! they look good PSYCHO V @ PROMETHEUS. You guys are really knocking them out back to back.![]()
I can't wait to be the new Scythians in game now.![]()
This mod will be the best RTS one everand I'm not just saying that.... I really mean it.
Between the new skin/model units and new gameplays to the Map.. This is what I always wanted in a RTS game.. one more time OMFGF!!![]()
The 'Gallic Warriors of La Tene period' would be perfect for Lugian Union faction, or even just the provinces of Boihaemia and Lugiae. Just what we need.
BTW, I love how 'naked fanatics' always wield strategically placed shields on these pictures ;)
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Please PROMETEUS. Keep posting less images in each page of the thread or i'll delete your posts.Originally Posted by PROMETHEUS
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The strip thing?..well prob more of a Belgae thing than your standard Central Gauls. The biggest prob is the generic nature of the unit..to get a unit that can pass as 'Tribal Militia' for all of Trans and Cis-alpine Gaul.Originally Posted by PROMETHEUS
These guys are you farmers and hire hands, poor folk in relation to the warrior class (Warband), conscripted to fight for their overlords. I was considering a generic plain brown or faded green shirt and some dull tartan duds. Oh, and the belt is going.
Verci and I were also discussing whether they should have torcs. Though some wore them, many in this class evidently (at least according to current research and historical accounts) did not. So we figure, make them distinct in this aspect and leave them off the Militia?
Ok, now as to arms. We have enabled the Warbands to throw spears. They’ll throw a volley before charging, like the Romans. The Tribal Militia will be replacing the ‘peasants’. The Skirmisher will be removed and Aquitanian Archers, Senone Slingers etc added.
Do you think we should give the Militia some javelins to throw as well as a thrusting spear to make them quasi – light javelin skirmishers?
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Last edited by PSYCHO V; 11-16-2004 at 08:15.
Why not just give the torcs to the officers?
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Well, I'd tend not to do that due to the fact that most Gallic warriors wore a torc. They were rather common.Originally Posted by eadingas
Ranika, Ok I'll see if we can add the javelin function. I agree with your suggestions re texture..bar the mow thing.
The mow was a cultural rather than a 'class' thing for the Gauls. You could argue the Britons, Galatians even the Celtiberians but the Gauls were different. They seemed to have the mow as a quasi 'fashion symbol' late 3rd C to mid 1st C BC. Just like the mow and tartan duds were dropped in favour of the sought after / in fashion Toga post Roman conquest, the Gallic dress (including mow) was the sought after / in fashion attire beforehand. I believe enough historical evidence exists to warrant it's inclusion on all Gallic units and helps delineate them as a factional unit.
Fair enough then on the mow. As for the javelins, the dart is about 1/2-2/3rds the length of a javelin. Should be shorter range than a javelin. Is it possible to model a new 'dart' projectile? It'd not really look too different from a javelin, really, it was just a small version of one.
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Great work, PSYCHO V, Vercingetorix and PROMETHEUS!![]()
But Scythian leader looks like gay! His dress is ok, but his face is something terrible. The beard must be larger. And maybe it's just me, but his face have blue hue that make him look like rouged travesty.![]()
I can alter the beard and hair in MAX. No problem on that. But I haven't got that model yet.Originally Posted by Dead Moroz
Well, in MTW, Darts actually had greater range than Javelins. Was that innacurate?Originally Posted by Ranika
Badly from what I can tell. It's not that a dart can't be thrown further, it's that, it's not what it's used for. Darts are made to throw at very close range, they're thrown straight at the target, not arched into the air. The idea was to use it to disarray a charging line, while you hold position. Every man throws his darts as quickly as he can, aiming for the head/neck/upper torso area of the target. If one is lucky, it will disintegrate the enemy front line. However, that was the Irish tactic, but, their darts were of a Gallic design. I think then, it's probably decent to infer they were basing their tactic upon Gallic fighting, since they were using what were essentially Gallic darts. Could easily be wrong there though, but I've never heard of darts being used, en masse, in any other way. The other method was essentially to skirmish with them, but even then, they'd run in close and hurl them straight, and withdraw, trying to draw attention away from a main attack force that would hit the target (now occupied with trying to chase down the men who threw the darts).Originally Posted by Aymar de Bois Mauri
Last edited by Ranika; 11-17-2004 at 01:18.
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Sorry. Not the Celtiberians. They were mostly cleanshaven, although some tribes whore full-beards. No Gallic moustache.Originally Posted by PSYCHO V
They should have some type of light javelin, I think. The Gauls had 'darts', which were what preamabled the later Irish darts. I'd think these darts would be used by militias, as professional soldiers often had actual javelins. Also, I'd give them a plain, dull brown shirt, and maybe remove the mustache, as those were more of a popular item for professional warriors and aristocrats. While hardly an impossibility for the militias to have them, it would draw a difference between actual warriors and militiamen.
Their pants should be checkered, in two colors (farmers and freemen wore two-three colors, slaves wore one, warrior classes wore four-to-five, nobles wore six, and the king could wear seven colors).
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