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    Dungalloigh Brehonda Member Ranika's Avatar
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    I also do not mean to imply that the list is in any manner, incorrect, inasmuch as what we can know. But the Gauls did not write extensively, so we have to go off of what sources we can. Having a truly 100% accurate army, for any of the factions, is going to be impossible, But, we can come close. We will need to stretch things a bit, but believably. Even if there aren't a huge, vast number of sources, we can imply a great deal, with a good bit of accuracy, based upon digs, and descriptions. What we can assure is that what Pyscho V is offering are vastly closer to the real Gauls than the pure fantasy CA offered us. Pyscho V has used as good as sources as we'll be able to get, short of a bloody time machine. I have seen the same sources, and I'm sure some others will offer up a similar back up.

    Of Mori Gaesum, have to name them something, and 'Sea of Spears' is a pretty good one. The early Irish and Welsh refered to the phalanx as a 'Sea of Spears', and such a name easily could've come from a more ancient source. It does match the kind of 'poetic' names the Gauls seemed to give things, using metaphor to convey an image of a vast number of spear heads, easily what they may have called the phalanx, and lingually proper.

    Edit; For helmet for the lesser general, I'd opt for the one you've got a picture of, just because I think it's an interesting design that'll give a nice, truly unique flair to the Gallic armor.
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    Superb unit update from all indeed
    No Thracian or German Unit/model update guys ?

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    I'm loving the work your doing Prom, great stuff ..

    ...but some of those unit pics are 1.5MB. It's killing my 56K
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    Ok good you have good sources , I trust , but shouldn't we limit the Gauls to what is effectively described in the Caesar's Book? Anyway even if some of those should be more elite groups and be built only in specific regions and I guess may be some are from other celtic cultures than gauls may be briton , may be celtiberian , may be belgican , may be northItalian , may be caledonian or irish....

    ok I will try to resize them more next time....


    Also could some of you with good sources post some good very realistic plates about greeks at that given time , I have till the end of the Alexander empire , but is mostly on phalanxes and macedopnian armies.....

    Also I hope we are going to use the naked barbarian mod since shows another reality of the celtic fighters ....
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    Great Gallic units!

    I hope some of them are shared with the britons, because the rest of us want some unit space too

    But seriously, great work. I'd buy all of you a guiness if you were around here!
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    In the fall of the Roman Republic Plutarch describes Cimbrian cavalry at Vercellae as wearing helmets like gape-jawed heads of terrible beasts heghtened with tall feathers plumes, as carring white shields , two javelins and a large heavy sword, wearing iron breastplates.



    The helmet with the Raven is from the Ciumesti Maramunes in Romania , it is mounted with a bronze bird whose winged wings would flam in movement.....other helmets with mounted animals do appear in Gundership Cauldron . The romanian helmet was found with bronse greaves and mail corslet......


    so according to this the helmet should be from Romanian tribes of Caelts not Gauls .......

    also have been considered the Galitians???

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    Many of those raven helmets were found in France, particularly in Normandy, Brittany, and areas around them. 'Irish' does not exist yet, Celtic Hibernia has just recently been settled by Celts in this period, who are of mixed Gaul/Briton/possibly Celtiberian extraction, but there are a few unique types of soldiers from there, one or two might be a nice regional unit for Briton/Gaul/Iberia. The units in Pyscho V's list are ALL of Gallic extraction, except for some of the mercs, and one which is Celtiberian (and I suggest we move to an Iberian unit).

    The Gauls will not share units with the Britons, the Britons had a completely different military, based on tribal concerns, so mobility is more of a key for them. Gauls had steady kingdoms with large areas of land, and thus could afford themselves slower moving, but otherwise stronger forces, than one would find in Britain, which would look completely different than a Gallic military. Just because they were Celts, doesn't mean they actually had TOO much in common. A similar language, art styles, etc., maybe. But warfare was adjusted to their lifestyle, and the Britons lived a totally different life than the Gauls, so shared units would not make sense. However, we should have enough space for everyone's units. Aymar has already come up with some good ideas to cut down on the units already used, like a universal, rebel peasant unit, no one builds it, only shows up in rebellions, and cutting down, drastically, the number of siege engines by having them universal, since we can have different skins for the crews. There should be plenty of space for every faction to have a unique, interesting military, and still have room for mercs.
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