Unit Screenshots

[Ranika]

Yeah, I sort of realized that after my post. They had been with the other Iberians for so long in only makes sense that they would've adopted, rather heavily, the indigenous customs/cultures. However, I've read about effigies to Gallic gods and such in parts of the Celtiberian regions, so that made me a bit curious about how much of the former Celtic culture they may have retained.

[PSYCHO V]

Prom, your PMs are full so just dropping a note here.

Further to our discussion:
I'd appreciate the help (I can't do the 3d stuff and seems I've been deserted at this point by my associates :P ). I'll still need your email to send you the files.


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Quick question to Yall:

Do we know how to make the AI build our new units? Has anyone tested the campaign to see if the AI actually uses the new units?

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Oh..and not sure if you guys heard about this. HUGE archeological find in France over the weekend! 470 objects, 5 almost complete carnyxs, 9 helmets etc etc! Shit I wish I was in France right now!



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[Steppe Merc]

I imagine that they would, since they do in one of the other mods that I played before the internal release here. But I haven't had any access to the new units. Mabye that could be rectified...
Just kidding.

[PSYCHO V]

Ok, sorry for those who have already replied but anyone who wants to check some of the gaul units send an email to callmepsycho@hotmail.com and I'll send you the files tonight my / EDST / 11+ UTC time (in around 8-9 hours).

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

Ok, guys. For unit integration in Alpha 0.3 you better start sending me the data. For completelly new units this should include the 4 3d meshes (CAS), the texture (DDS) and the unit data. For 3d and texture alterations just the CAS and DDS. For re-skins just the DDS.

[Steppe Merc]

Has anyone at all worked on the Scythian/Parthians/Sarmatians? I'm glad at all of this work, but their all not my kind of stuff. Sadly I can't modify things at all...

[PROMETHEUS]

PSICO V I added you to my contacts in messenger , just open it....

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

Has anyone at all worked on the Scythian/Parthians/Sarmatians?

Not yet. We'll get there. I'm pretty anxious because of those horse archers ridiculous look.

[PROMETHEUS]

Carthaginian Liby-Phoenician spearmen.....

[PSYCHO V]

PSICO V I added you to my contacts in messenger , just open it....

what's messenger? You don't have email?

[Urnamma]

The liby-phoenicians look great! The shield shouldn't have the meander.

[PROMETHEUS]

www.msn.com go there download the program wich is free and read how to install it , very usefull....

[PROMETHEUS]

What is the meander.???

[Urnamma]

The pattern on the rim of the shield design. The greek meander pattern.

[PROMETHEUS]

Why not? Aren't the Libyan mercenaries influenced by that style?

[Steppe Merc]

Not yet. We'll get there. I'm pretty anxious because of those horse archers ridiculous look.

Agreed. Not just the pajama guys, also the poor Scythians. In fact, they should all look pretty similar: very colorful kaftas, long black brown or blond hair, with either a Scythian cap or with a colorful "bandana". Baggy, colorful pants (not matching the kaftan). It will be a bitch to do the hair, but the kaftan shouldn't be that hard to do... just really recoulour the Parthian jacket. And the pants as well, but with changes.
Then theirs the heavy cavalry...

[PSYCHO V]

www.msn.com go there download the program wich is free and read how to install it , very usefull....

I can't run messenger / IRC etc on my PC due to IT security settings.

[PROMETHEUS]

lower ur settings then ....

[Urnamma]

Why not? Aren't the Libyan mercenaries influenced by that style?

Partially, but they would not have used the meander. That was a Greek only thing. They should also have white tunics, not black.

[PSYCHO V]

Set by Parliament IT, not me. They've done funky things to the PCs which make them tamper proof.

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scratch that ...hacked my way in


...wish I could delete posts ... miss that here

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

Agreed. Not just the pajama guys, also the poor Scythians. In fact, they should all look pretty similar: very colorful kaftas, long black brown or blond hair, with either a Scythian cap or with a colorful "bandana". Baggy, colorful pants (not matching the kaftan). It will be a bitch to do the hair, but the kaftan shouldn't be that hard to do... just really recoulour the Parthian jacket. And the pants as well, but with changes.
Then theirs the heavy cavalry...

The hair will be no problem.

Waht is the problem with the heavy cav?

[WhiteWolf]

http://www.archaeolink.com/celts_anc...ilizations.htmJust a good website to take a look at some historic celtic sources. One celtic culture you might want to take a look at in particular is the La Tene celtic culture. Hope that helps

[Ahilleas]

Cretan archers......

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Kalimera(goodmorning) Promithea
Im quoting you about Cretan archers since you created them. From my information they didnt carry javelings at all. During classical era they might even had linen armor. Many vases showing armored archers archeologists think that their inspired from mercenary Cretan archers. Offcourse there are doubts cause they also may refer to Teukros(epic hero). There is a statue of an hoplite wearing linen armor and lion shaped cap targeting with bow that may be Cretan archer. Things are foggy as you can see and the only certain thing we have from hellenistic era is a drawing of a relief showing two friends, cretan archers, wearing tunics with a little bag hunging from their neck. The color of the tunic is unknown and its not bad to follow the example of Angus McBride who depicted a cretan with a black one. Its the traditional color in Crete for centuries. Also important is the head band.

[Dead Moroz]

Can anybody show pictures of Celtiberian warriors? I wonder that they have chain mail.

[PROMETHEUS]

There is a statue of an hoplite wearing linen armor and lion shaped cap targeting with bow that may be Cretan archer.

No the pictures you refer to are about the Athenians archers , a contingent kept by athen during the persian wars and they wore linen cuiras and lion skin .....


About the libyanphoenicians I used a plate and they are right as I made them , armies of the Carthaginian wars by Osprey.....

[Ahilleas]

[QUOTE=PROMETHEUS]No the pictures you refer to are about the Athenians archers , a contingent kept by athen during the persian wars and they wore linen cuiras and lion skin .....


Well as i told you the situation is foggy but there is no reference that the armoured archers were athenians. They were in athenians side. The lion metal cap propably wasnt a rule and because of its value many scholars say that propably this is rather a hero depicted or a mercenary who could afford it. By the way would it be much trouble to have hoplite units from different greek cities(the basic ones at least) have different ''Episimon'' (sign) on their shields? If its big trouble or consumes unit space forget it. Congratulations for your fine work.
Last request can you post an image of the spartan you develop?

[Dead Moroz]

Carthaginian Liby-Phoenician spearmen.....

Good work!

Just make them brighter and more colorful, please.

[Urnamma]

PROMETHEUS: They are not right as you made them and I'd appreciate it if you'd take the advice of people here who are actual historians and who have a command of primary source literature. If we have to fight with you tooth and nail to get units to look right it gets kinda frustrating. Carthaginians and their armies wore WHITE tunics, not black or red or green with yellow polka dots. Their shields are fine except for the meander pattern. Opsrey takes creative license, as do many who do these things. They are capable of making mistakes. Osprey plates are not gospel evidence. In Livy's Latin the Carthaginian armies are said to have white tunics. In Polybius's Greek they are said to wear white tunics. Primary sources always trump artistic renderings, however nice they are. BTW I have the osprey book that you're refering to, and the plate. You took creative license with the shield. It would not have the meander, but the rest of it looks fine.

I appreciate your skill, as does everyone here, but please stop being hard headed and listen to the input of others. We're working together here.

[PROMETHEUS]

I listen to objections otherwise I wouldn't post previews , but ... those are Chartaginian mercenaries not really carthaginian troops so they retained their original dresses , also about the shioeld half moon since I guessed this is a symbol of Carthage i placed on the shield too would take few to paint it , the motiph adds variance to the shield , suggest aniother one if u like but without it the shield would look empty ....I think also that the colors be darker adds realism to the whole and making them more colourfull would make them stick out of all the others and look more plastic and unreal ..... bright colours never exhisted in nature....

If we have to fight with you tooth and nail to get units to look right it gets kinda frustrating. Carthaginians and their armies wore WHITE tunics,

You don't have to fight for this , but since I have to listen to others people too I have to get a compromize , there are severall historians may be here , all with different opinins , me as well included this doesn't mean that me , you or someone else is right ,listening to ancient fonts is right , but sometimes as always they have many contraddictions so is better to rely on a media of opinions than on a single one....that is why befoure changing anything I want discussion and have severall opinions...since I may be wronga, but you as well...

[Colovion]

... I think they look great, but then again I'm not basing my opinion on "how they really should be"