Check out the Parthian guys in the secret thread, and my Celtic guys... who are around somewhere, I think in the original EB thread.
Check out the Parthian guys in the secret thread, and my Celtic guys... who are around somewhere, I think in the original EB thread.
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If you should stand then who's to guide you?
If I knew the way I would take you home."
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Well, the relevant people to ask are me, [cF]HanBaal, and Aymar. Carthage is our area of expertise. I highly doubt you'll get a different answer from them.You don't have to fight for this , but since I have to listen to others people too I have to get a compromize , there are severall historians may be here , all with different opinins , me as well included this doesn't mean that me , you or someone else is right ,listening to ancient fonts is right , but sometimes as always they have many contraddictions so is better to rely on a media of opinions than on a single one....that is why befoure changing anything I want discussion and have severall opinions...since I may be wronga, but you as well...
First of all, lemme say that you're absolutely right on bright colors. Only bright white, purple, and red existed in the ancient world, due to the dyes being available (for white, only certain chemicals were needed, akin to modern bleach).I listen to objections otherwise I wouldn't post previews , but ... those are Chartaginian mercenaries not really carthaginian troops so they retained their original dresses , also about the shioeld half moon since I guessed this is a symbol of Carthage i placed on the shield too would take few to paint it , the motiph adds variance to the shield , suggest aniother one if u like but without it the shield would look empty ....I think also that the colors be darker adds realism to the whole and making them more colourfull would make them stick out of all the others and look more plastic and unreal ..... bright colours never exhisted in nature....
Liby-Phoenicians are indeed Carthaginian troops. Every relevant source I've seen puts them wearing white tunics. History is not a democracy, neither is truth. Ergo, there should be white tunics. Why are you worried about this, I know why I am. I'm a near eastern historian, I get a bit uppity about stuff like this, but c'mon, having to debate this stuff in class does that to you. Your model looks great except for the white tunics and meander pattern on the shield.![]()
I'll use reason here... They live in the desert. Most people in the desert wear light and airy clothing, and have a tradition of wearing white. It keeps heat out. Ergo, their tunics would be white.
As for the meander, source material never mentions it, and Carthage tended to dislike the Sicilian Greeks. The meander pattern was strongly identified with Greeks. Therefore, the meander would almost certainly not have been used.
I'm not trying to be an ass or anything, you just tend to be a bit of a rebel, my friend. Working together is good stuff. We want this stuff to look as historical as possible, not as nice as possible. It'd be cool to have guys in gilded plate armor with embossed bronze inscriptions on the front and what not, but it didn't exist. So, we have to use something less out of a fantasy novel and more out of Diadoros, so to speak.
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