Unit Screenshots

[Ranika]

It's not a matter of being eye catching or remarkable, it is realistic for certain factions to have colorful soldiers. However, correctly so, many soldiers are drab and not colorful, but that doesn't mean all of them are. Even the colorful soldiers shouldn't have too bright of colors, simply because it'd look a bit cartoonish, fabric gets dirty and darker, but they'd still be fairly colorful. However, those would be exceptional soldiers, the Gauls used a lot of colors, the Britons used plenty (they both had copious amounts of dyes, and a great deal of knowledge on how to extract and make them), but most factions would employ simpler colors, and simple paints and dyes.

[Parmenio]

I'm supposed to be doing Ptolemaics, and I will - but I'd already started on this one and decided to carry on to familarize myself with RTW's quirks and whatnots.

It's supposed to be a Celt-Iberian Light Scutari.

[PROMETHEUS]

I think this one was already made by Aymar , but not sure....

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

I'm supposed to be doing Ptolemaics, and I will - but I'd already started on this one and decided to carry on to familarize myself with RTW's quirks and whatnots.

It's supposed to be a Celt-Iberian Light Scutari.

It's a good work, but I'm already working on them. The tunic looks funny though.

Regarding this unit issue, please concentrate on the units of the faction(s) you have choosen. If anybody wants to work in the units of another extra faction or factions, please tell me first, for me to include you in the worklist. It will make my job easier and will avoid repetition work like this one.

[Parmenio]

Fair play, it was mostly done to get the feel for CA's model system.

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

Fair play, it was mostly done to get the feel for CA's model system.

No problem. I did the same with other units...

[PROMETHEUS]

Gaul Standard bearer , I just worked on the helmet and some image of the skin still something has to be done but mostly on the skinning , the boar was made by Vercingetorix , I will pass again this to Psicho V....

[Stormy]

OMFG I like, I like.. Good job PROMETHEUS!!

[Urnamma]

Very nice work PROM!

Working with the group is fun, isn't it

This is for you

[PROMETHEUS]

I just did the Helmet and resized the boar nothing else the rest was made by someone else......

[Steppe Merc]

I wish he had a shirt... I hate shirtless non- Romans...

[Urnamma]

I wish he had a shirt... I hate shirtless non- Romans...

Do shirtless Romans get you hot under the collar

[[cF]HanBaal]

eheheheh nice one Urnamma, that was my first thought too ... but then I realised... a shirtless roman soldier = a dead pilaged one... that's what makes Steppe Merc 'hot'

[[cF]HanBaal]

Gaul Standard bearer , I just worked on the helmet and some image of the skin still something has to be done but mostly on the skinning , the boar was made by Vercingetorix , I will pass again this to Psicho V....

nice helmet Prom and whoa, nice 3d boar in that standard Vercingetorix ! I wish you could make some standards for Carthage too.... here's the most common standards and my personal rank in case you wanna give us a hand:

1- the Barcid standards:

the one in the right...aint that a pretty one...

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2- the horse in front of a palm tree... also very common:


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3- the one in the left with the crossed swords... another common one



btw, what do you think is the most apropriate Urnamma?

[PSYCHO V]

Helmet is looking better Prom. Got another angle?..can't quite see it clearly.

Any luck with the arms?

I wish he had a shirt... I hate shirtless non- Romans... _ Steppe Merc

The problem is that we get only ONE standard guy for every period and every Gallic tribe. This would have been the most common appearance throughout RTW.

[PROMETHEUS]

bTW i LIKE MORE THE THROUSERS IN ur picture , I noticed the arm , but tought wasn't my responsibilioty to adjoust it .. someone has to have for error moved sme vertices there .....anyway I see a problem here that unless has been resolved it makes useless to continue working on this standard bearer and others.....oh abnd here the standard is little...see....




the standard bearers of all the barbarian tribes share the same cas so if I placed this gaul with boar all other barbarians have to use the boar and this is not very good ....so have you solved this problem? otherwise is better to go back to the old standard bearers , and also I would say that if instead there is the possibility to have a standard bearer for every faction with a different cas this will imply the consuption of free slots of units? is so is this really worth it?

[PSYCHO V]

OK, a few questions that are rather important:

1) The unit limit, what defines a unit slot? The name, the stats or the Cas?

For example, can we have numerous units using the same cas but differnet skin without using extra positions? Can we have numerous units using the same stats, name but with different skins and cas?

2) Mercs. Can someone give a definitive answer as to whether we can limit mercs to certain factions?





Prom , Verci's had a look at the arm. I think he'll be able to fix it. It appears it was actually something CA messed up on. Re: the size, I understand your rationale but the artist hasn't quite got the proportions right in that pic imho.
Can you send Verci and I your cas and Tga for the SB?
Have you finished the Celtiberian? Mind if I have a look at those files too?

Cheers

[Urnamma]

2) Mercs. Can someone give a definitive answer as to whether we can limit mercs to certain factions?

Tried it on my own not too long ago. We can't...

[cF]HanBaal: The one with the crossed swords for the Elite African infantry shields.

I love the banner with the elephants for the standard bearer, if anyone wants to do that.

[PROMETHEUS]

Posted it back to Verc....

[DeadRunner]

nice job prometheus

[PROMETHEUS]

Sacred Band Cavalry......

[PSYCHO V]

Gallic Standard Bearer is pretty much done. HUGE thanks to Verci and Prom for their brilliant work. Great stuff guys!

[Ranika]

Great looking cavalry and standard bearer, good work. I for some reason expected the standard bearer's sword to be shorter (not that I'd want it to be), but I guess that's memories of the table knives everyone seems to be swinging at eachother in vanilla.

[PROMETHEUS]

doubleed post ......

[PROMETHEUS]

I think the colours u used don't work , never seen a plate with a gaul with red capes , they also mostly used tartanlike throusers , those are linear ones ,...more like the osprey plate I mean.....also when I looked at the model the mantle gives a bad sight with the franges pieces looks too artificial should be placed back as a whole and may be just spotted of mud but not cutted ...and also a bad clipping issue of the standard bearer when he sits should be corrected whith the cape on the back side......other than that still _Noone answered me if those standards will be different for every faction since all the barbarians share the same model and actually now all barbarians should have the boar ......

[Steppe Merc]

I like those units. That sacred band cavalry, what faction is it for? It looks like it has a Macedonian sunburst on its shield. Rember we don't need faction colors anymore.
Also, I'm almost a hundred percent sure that the muclsed cuirass was extremely uncomfortable on horseback. I think a different sort of armour would be used for the chest, but I'm not sure what sort.

[thrashaholic]

I don't know if anyone's noticed, and I don't mean to complain, but the Gallic standard bearer's left hand (the one holding the standard) is the wrong way round, it looks quite strange. To be anatomically correct his palm should be facing inwards (rather than outwards as it is at the moment). A small detail I know, but it makes a difference.

Otherwise keep up the good work

[PROMETHEUS]

I'm almost a hundred percent sure that the muclsed cuirass was extremely uncomfortable on horseback. I think a different sort of armour would be used for the chest, but I'm not sure what sort.

Actually I agree but I just made the model on Urnamma instructions , I think that a linen cuirass would have been more suitted.....

[Steppe Merc]

Thanks. I thought that the muscled cuirass wasn't used for horseback, but I wasn't quite sure. I wonder why everyone has it though...

[[cF]HanBaal]

I like those units. That sacred band cavalry, what faction is it for? It looks like it has a Macedonian sunburst on its shield.

That's the Carthaginian Sacred Band Cavalry, and a very pretty one

About the shield symbol, Urnamma wrote: "opaque white five pointed star in the center (Astarte’s holy sign)". I think I dunno this five pointed star (israeli one?) but the one now has 8 points.


A couple more details Prometheus: the sword is missing (hanging around the waist maybe?) as well as the lamelar armour around the horse's front:



And finally, is it possible for the horses to be black as Urnamma suggested (white would look cool too if black doesn't work out)?

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About the armour, Sacred Band Inf wore iron cuirasses indeed so the resemblance to their cav counterparts shouldn't be that difference in what armour concerns. However, if you're sure that would be extremely uncomfortable to use, Steppe Merc, maybe we could use a lamellar armour or even linen. The muscled cuirass looks d*mn cool though... :P