Unit Screenshots

[PROMETHEUS]

Sacred Band Cavalry......

[PSYCHO V]

Gallic Standard Bearer is pretty much done. HUGE thanks to Verci and Prom for their brilliant work. Great stuff guys!

[Ranika]

Great looking cavalry and standard bearer, good work. I for some reason expected the standard bearer's sword to be shorter (not that I'd want it to be), but I guess that's memories of the table knives everyone seems to be swinging at eachother in vanilla.

[PROMETHEUS]

doubleed post ......

[PROMETHEUS]

I think the colours u used don't work , never seen a plate with a gaul with red capes , they also mostly used tartanlike throusers , those are linear ones ,...more like the osprey plate I mean.....also when I looked at the model the mantle gives a bad sight with the franges pieces looks too artificial should be placed back as a whole and may be just spotted of mud but not cutted ...and also a bad clipping issue of the standard bearer when he sits should be corrected whith the cape on the back side......other than that still _Noone answered me if those standards will be different for every faction since all the barbarians share the same model and actually now all barbarians should have the boar ......

[Steppe Merc]

I like those units. That sacred band cavalry, what faction is it for? It looks like it has a Macedonian sunburst on its shield. Rember we don't need faction colors anymore.
Also, I'm almost a hundred percent sure that the muclsed cuirass was extremely uncomfortable on horseback. I think a different sort of armour would be used for the chest, but I'm not sure what sort.

[thrashaholic]

I don't know if anyone's noticed, and I don't mean to complain, but the Gallic standard bearer's left hand (the one holding the standard) is the wrong way round, it looks quite strange. To be anatomically correct his palm should be facing inwards (rather than outwards as it is at the moment). A small detail I know, but it makes a difference.

Otherwise keep up the good work

[PROMETHEUS]

I'm almost a hundred percent sure that the muclsed cuirass was extremely uncomfortable on horseback. I think a different sort of armour would be used for the chest, but I'm not sure what sort.

Actually I agree but I just made the model on Urnamma instructions , I think that a linen cuirass would have been more suitted.....

[[cF]HanBaal]

I like those units. That sacred band cavalry, what faction is it for? It looks like it has a Macedonian sunburst on its shield.

That's the Carthaginian Sacred Band Cavalry, and a very pretty one

About the shield symbol, Urnamma wrote: "opaque white five pointed star in the center (Astarte’s holy sign)". I think I dunno this five pointed star (israeli one?) but the one now has 8 points.


A couple more details Prometheus: the sword is missing (hanging around the waist maybe?) as well as the lamelar armour around the horse's front:



And finally, is it possible for the horses to be black as Urnamma suggested (white would look cool too if black doesn't work out)?

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About the armour, Sacred Band Inf wore iron cuirasses indeed so the resemblance to their cav counterparts shouldn't be that difference in what armour concerns. However, if you're sure that would be extremely uncomfortable to use, Steppe Merc, maybe we could use a lamellar armour or even linen. The muscled cuirass looks d*mn cool though... :P

[PROMETHEUS]

Sacred band infantry with linen cuirass.....

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

Sacred Band Cavalry......

Excellent work, but there is an error. You've incurred in the same error as CA. Metal Cuirasses do NOT have shoulder straps, let alone leather ones. The front and back parts are articulated through hinges and they are fixed by small straps on the sides (under the arms). Please correct that.

[Dead Moroz]

Sacred Band Cavalry......

Good work, Prometheus! Just correct two things:
1. The shield must not be behind the back. It's march order. In battle such shield is useless. They must hold it in hand like any other units.
2. Maybe it's just me but something should be done with their faces. It's too blurry. And they looks like they gonna cry right now.

Sacred band infantry with linen cuirass.....

Marvellous!

[PROMETHEUS]

1. The shield must not be behind the back. It's march order. In battle such shield is useless. They must hold it in hand like any other units.
2. Maybe it's just me but something should be done with their faces. It's too blurry. And they looks like they gonna cry right now.

1 U are right to me but Urnamma asked them to have like this ...

2 U are right here too , but this is a previous pic , now I already fixed it and the lances too....

[eadingas]

If they have shields like that they shouldn't get shield bonuses... Unless this is a special coward shield for retreating :)

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

If they have shields like that they shouldn't get shield bonuses... Unless this is a special coward shield for retreating :)

ROTFL This one is priceless...

[DemonArchangel]

Well, i'm too lazy to dig up Palestinian clubmen, but Aurelian used them against the palmyrans, so, yes it's way off.

What about the property free legions (Pre Marian)?

[Stormy]

Well, i'm too lazy to dig up Palestinian clubmen, but Aurelian used them against the palmyrans, so, yes it's way off.

Demon!

No proof then

[Steppe Merc]

Also I want to say that this Sacred band should be available by beginning and be not buildable again so will bea unit destined to extincion since so was historically ....I want to know what to use for the phalanx too ... also Urnamma described another elite unit the Afrivcan unit so there is another elite unit.....

I disagree. They probably went on longer than when they were last recorded, and where probably only discountined due to fininacial difficulty. If the player can keep up the finacialness of the empire, can't they continue with the Sacred Band?
And besides, what would the Sacred Band be replaced with? What sort of heavy cav, or phanlax would replace them?

[hellenes]

First THE MOD ROCKS!!!!
I think the CA should hire you guys so they make some proper games....
Are you planning anything about the "egyptians"?
Please make them logical in the present condition i feel like im a retarded 10 yeras old...
Also Can Someone PLEASE make the pikemen to hold their 22 feet pikes WITH BOTH HANDS?
Keep the good job...

Hellenes

[Dead Moroz]

I think the CA should hire you guys so they make some proper games....

Would you talk to them about me?

Are you planning anything about the "egyptians"?

Planning... But do you maybe want to join our team to make this job?

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

First THE MOD ROCKS!!!!

Thank you in name of all the EB team.

I think the CA should hire you guys so they make some proper games....

HE!HE!HE!

Well, Dead Moroz has a different oppinion than mine. I would not be able to work under the tyrannical pressure of Activision's vision of the world...

Are you planning anything about the "egyptians"?
Please make them logical in the present condition i feel like im a retarded 10 yeras old...

Yes. Fancy New Kingdom Egypt headresses are going the way of the dodo. They are being remade from the ground up. Stay tunned for more...

Also Can Someone PLEASE make the pikemen to hold their 22 feet pikes WITH BOTH HANDS?

Very complicated, but we are going to try it.

Keep the good job...

Hellenes

Thanks again. We will.

[Dead Moroz]

Well, Dead Moroz has a different oppinion than mine. I would not be able to work under the tyrannical pressure of Activision's vision of the world...

Is it worse than working under tyranny of band eager for 4 turns per year and lots of microregions?

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

Is it worse than working under tyranny of band eager for 4 turns per year and lots of microregions?

Oh yes!!! Much, much worse!!

This one was a democratic decision...

[Dead Moroz]

Excuse me my bad English. What are you talking about? Who are the Palestinian Clubmen? Is it guys spending time in night clubs in Occupied Territories?

[Urnamma]

Sacred Band Cav and Inf are two different units. While the existence of Inf for our period is sketchy, cav was there until around 170 B.C. when the temple of Astarte wen't bankrupt, so to speak (they no longer had the infrastructure necessary to keep up the heavy cavalry).

[Stormy]

Excuse me my bad English. What are you talking about? Who are the Palestinian Clubmen? Is it guys spending time in night clubs in Occupied Territories?

good one.

[PROMETHEUS]

Sacred Band Cav and Inf are two different units. While the existence of Inf for our period is sketchy, cav was there until around 170 B.C. when the temple of Astarte wen't bankrupt, so to speak (they no longer had the infrastructure necessary to keep up the heavy cavalry).

Can I read this infos? mostly about the iron cuirass on horsemen?

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

Excuse me my bad English. What are you talking about? Who are the Palestinian Clubmen? Is it guys spending time in night clubs in Occupied Territories?

LOL!!!

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

1 U are right to me but Urnamma asked them to have like this ...

Please, PROMETEUS!!

Linen Armour + Shoulder Straps = OK

Metal Cuirass + Shoulder Straps = NOT OK

If everyone else has a different oppinion, at least make the shoulder straps be made of metal, like in Augustus statue...

[Urnamma]

About the Sacred Band cav...

The shield is in the correct position, and they should not get a shield bonus. The Sacred Band used the Xyston, which as we all know, utilized two hands. The shield was used when they dismounted and fought on foot with their swords. It was slung across the shoulders when they were on horseback. Also, with cavalry warfare, you are often exposed from the back after a charge. The shield will help protect from a shot to the back. You don't charge at a line then stop at the front, you charge into a line and go into it

Aymar, you're right about the muscle cuirass. The straps should be removed.

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