Unit Screenshots

[PROMETHEUS]

Ok here are my final versions of the Roman early legions , new models for them some more skinning developement could be done but the units are almoust ready with all the different cas files too....

here is


the Hastatus



the Princeps



the Triarius

[PROMETHEUS]

First version of Dacian peltast



You can see which model I based it off in Stormy's pics above. I still need to add the scabbard though. Please comment to help make it better

the dresses are too bright , they should look more dark , used and consumpsed , the shield patterns need to be regulated and also the brighteness is too much , also need some darkening to give a 3d effect ......

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

Ok here are my final versions of the Roman early legions , new models for them some more skinning developement could be done but the units are almoust ready with all the different cas files too....

All great looking!! Very good job!!

But there are two small details that I think are to be mentioned:

1. The Triarii helm should be more oval and slightly taller.
2. The Triarii has a Gladius. What for? He doesn't use it!!...

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

BTW, for everyone modelling the 3d units and skins, I want these pictures also posted on each of the specific faction groups in the restricted forum.

[Little Legioner]

All great looking!! Very good job!!

But there are two small details that I think are to be mentioned:

1. The Triarii helm should be more oval and slightly taller.
2. The Triarii has a Gladius. What for? He doesn't use it!!...

I found a print. It shows Triarii uses sword



Prometheus i think this picture useful for your work.

It's my first post in Barbarorum. I'm looking to this great project for a long time. I salute you all great modders.

Regards.

[PROMETHEUS]

1. The Triarii helm should be more oval and slightly taller.
2. The Triarii has a Gladius. What for? He doesn't use it!!...

1.. will look

2... they use but as secondary weapon and that is why u see the Gladius in the scabbard here while instead in the others pics the scabbard is empty , I think this style should be followed by all who makes scabbards.....

[PROMETHEUS]

this is only a reskin for the barbarian infantry mercs .... I added fur to their dresses , how it looks like?

[eadingas]

Will there still be generic barb mercs in the game?

[Ranika]

I think it was agreed that they were being removed in favor of region-proper mercenaries.

[Dead Moroz]

this is only a reskin for the barbarian infantry mercs .... I added fur to their dresses , how it looks like?

I think we need this unit for northern regions rebels (and mercenaries) such as Aestii, Fenni, Scandinavians.

Just two notes, Prometheus.
1. The fur should be (imho) more fluffy and a bit lighter (to make its relief more visible).
2. Why he have double strap?

[PROMETHEUS]

Ranika I won't quote ur post since is too long ....Don't wonnna start to explain all what I already did to Urnamma on the msn ....

But

1st

I havent said Gauls were imbecilles or stupid, would be like saying my ancestors were stupid since I should track my origins back to venetii , Romans and Greeks...

2
they didnt invent the testudo

3
Caesar describes them using a sort of testudo approiaching gates to set them on fire


this is something that can be performed by few men and is alogical thing to do to cover urself ...probably every army did this in their tactics....when u come to romans , they made this thing into a full operative machine made with lots of people on highh scalke manouvers wich requires quite a bit of training to do that ......

SO this is not going to be in gaul tactics ....Or totherwise better swith legions to gauls .....Here people tend to make things better for others just couse they found one reference hidden in a dusty place ...that doesn't make the norma out of it..... remember that the gauls didn't invent this ,they may have used a similar tactic that is exactly not the same thing but could be described as becouse of the look..... Romans did even use balistas and such like manubalistas but this doesn't allow us to make a new unit of balestriers and such.....

And About Livy he describes what he heard and is used to know .... try to describe the chaunt of war of the gauls to the maori and u would probably call it Haka but this isnot the same thing even if could be described as .....


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To say that they USED something that can be classified a s a Testudo is one thing .....

Saying that the Romans COPIED it from the Gauls IS a big TOO much.....

Is also a manouvre that canbe common tought by every military man all over the world so there isn't much to invent and speack of inventions or copiatures , tough making it on large scale and full time hardened dicipline trained manouvers as a common and daily practice is something else....

The Gauls sacked and humiliated Rome, Roman opinion is more than a little biased against them. It's not that Gauls had elaborate legions or what not, but they were not undisciplined hordes

The biggest error here is to think of factions that spread for centuries like real players of a competitions.... there in NO one versus the other , there is NOt a match to see and tell who is better and who is stronger ...who is uhumiliated and who is not , u can't even tell who is the best general since everything chance and People shpuld think and live in those time to be able to talk about it ....sso the only thing possible is describe as is , facts and proves with NO comments on who did what , who is better , wo was stronger , who is more intelligent and stuff like that......

If people think of factions like competitors or football teams , wich is quite common to see around on TW forums They would act like sustainers of their home team and don't be instead impartials then u can take History books and throw them into the cabinet ..... But if people try too look at things good or bad that they could be with a non Faction - side eye , with a non modern judger eye , with not a western or eastern or whatever culture u come from critic eye then and only then could come true comprension of facts and history.....

You seemed to 'know well' that Firbolg were 'mythical'

I rectified myself when I discovered to have wronged on it since I knew the myth of Tuatha te Danaan and I made a misanderstanding but here is a different matter....

[eadingas]

The northerners at that period didn't use/know iron, except for more advanced people living around the Baltic (Veneds). They should either have stone spears, or wooden/flint clubs. The only metalwork was bronze and copper, very rare, all the way until ~100 BC, when these cultures were wiped out by something unknown (probably just moved further north).
(When they reappear around Vth c. CE, they STILL use only bronze weapons and jewellery. Talk about backwards...)

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

1.. will look

2... they use but as secondary weapon and that is why u see the Gladius in the scabbard here while instead in the others pics the scabbard is empty , I think this style should be followed by all who makes scabbards.....

OK. Fair enough.