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[Ranika]

They shouldn't be need in Gaul or Britain, both will have region-proper mercs, probably not in Germania either, if there are other mercs more proper. I'm pretty sure proper mercs can be thought of, at least one per large region of space, and those can just be replaced by a proper mercenary for one of the regions.

Good thought though Prom, maybe it would be a good German merc infantry (I'm not sure), but I'd imagine they should have a subae knot. And I'm not familiar with what kind of clothing a Germanic merc would be wearing, so can't comment on that. But as Germanic infantry unit, I'm sure they're just improper, the Germans closest to that would probably be fraeman (I know I misspelled that), or possibly the longer spear infantry that used a phalanx.

[eadingas]

On my part, I can say that the Central Europe also should usespecific mercs: LaTene celtic spearmen and longswordsmen in the south, and german spearmen, saxmen and cavalry in the north... perhaps merc barb archers (for Lugia) can be more generic, if they're made better than regular recruitable archers.

[PROMETHEUS]

guys I remewmber u that mercs shouldn't be so specific but more generic so this could be a good barb german infantry , then did the germans and celts use phalanxes ? I haven't reado of this.....

[Ranika]

Both various Celts and Germans did employ phalanx formations at different times. Celts also employed the tetsudo formation (Romans adopted it from them), as a method of marching on fortifications. However, that probably wouldn't be used by mercenaries, and relegated instead to advanced Gallic units.

The Germans would have mercenary spearmen, though, and maybe if these were modified a bit more, they would take on a proper look, but you should look into that in the German Groups thread.

And mercs should be far more specific, generic mercs are what are in the game currently, and they don't at all represent the actual regional mercenaries (like generic barbarian infantry in Galatia, as opposed to actual Galatian Kuaros and Kuarothori, heavy infantry swords and spears, respectively). Gaul will have proper Gaesatae and such, and Germania should definitely have the saxmen (it'd look unique given the region and era, and the sax was an interesting weapon that should be represented). I'm not sure how German mercenary spearmen should look, though that may be close to them, but, you should still look for stuff in the German Groups, see what they have to say.

[frogbeastegg]

Looking incredible; great work everyone

A very quick question from a frog who doesn't even have time to read all of this thread, let alone the entire forum's contents: What's with the split fronted mail so many units are wearing? It baffled me in the full game, and now I see it here too. I've seen loads of evidence for full skirted mail, but splits I only encounter evidence for much, much later than this. A little evidence or explanation would go down very well; this bothers me quite badly.

[PROMETHEUS]

Celts also employed the tetsudo formation (Romans adopted it from them), as a method of marching on fortifications.

LOL !!! now lets not invente history , of this step the Celts invented gunpoweder too....Testudo was a typical Roman invention tacticism , could be performed only under very hard training and sinchronicism of troops and was adopted by later legionaries as a manouver to counter the archers shoots approaching enemies... the Celts didn't even knew what was a siege tower and not for sure so many military formations , they attaked on mass with streight charges .... Beware people I don't wonna see fake stuff into other factions , I know well History and military tactics of the Romans , Celts and Greeks since were my ancestors and is what I like to study living also in once inhabited by those cultures place... , I rely on others for the other factions , But if people start to put in nationalism prides about making nations different from what they were and place in anistorical stuff or ideas just becouse they think of it , couse they would like it was so or other reasons..... I will leave this project....

[eadingas]

Read Livy's account of Gallo-Roman wars. Be careful with your accusations, this is exactly what this mod is for: to get rid of the stereotypical barbarians fighting only in 'horde' formation.

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

LOL !!! now lets not invente history , of this step the Celts invented gunpoweder too....Testudo was a typical Roman invention tacticism , could be performed only under very hard training and sinchronicism of troops and was adopted by later legionaries as a manouver to counter the archers shoots approaching enemies... the Celts didn't even knew what was a siege tower and not for sure so many military formations , they attaked on mass with streight charges .... Beware people I don't wonna see fake stuff into other factions , I know well History and military tactics of the Romans , Celts and Greeks since were my ancestors and is what I like to study living also in once inhabited by those cultures place... , I rely on others for the other factions , But if people start to put in nationalism prides about making nations different from what they were and place in anistorical stuff or ideas just becouse they think of it , couse they would like it was so or other reasons..... I will leave this project....

Beware, PROMETEUS!!! Germans DID use the phalanx formation and NOT all Celts atacked in horde formation. Like eadingas said, read more about them...