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    About the lines that the mail has this is an optical effect that mail suits make to distance is due to the weight and orientation of the small rings...

    Also comparing a real one with the second the second looks more close , the reflections will be made via gloss files and isn't that shiny the mail on the man in fulldaylight, while the roman samples are in a shadow of a hill...
    Moroz
    Chineese troops used very large squares of embossed leather for armours as seeableon the replicas of clay of Chinese soldiers in the tomb of the first emperor ...


    here are
    Samples of reproduction mail. Those at top were made by Erik D. Schmid. The finer one on the left can be considered very typical of Roman mail, with rings just under 7 mm in outside diameter. The riveted rings are made from round-section wire but have been slightly flattened. The sample at upper right was graciously donated by Arthur Hendrick. The punched rings are about 7/16" outer diameter and 5/16" inner diameter, and are about 1/16" thick. The riveted rings are made from iron wire of about 1 mm diameter.
    Erik points out that the rings are too large to be typical, and their ends overlap right-over-left while all the Roman samples he has seen overlap left-over-right. We will still consider mail of this quality to be very acceptable for our purposes!

    here an original one...
    Last edited by PROMETHEUS; 01-14-2005 at 13:28.

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    I've seen mail on numerous occasions both up close and at a distance (having been in a reenactment group years ago) and I haven't seen the sectional effect you have in your texture. Here's a link to the Ermine Street Guard (who are a reenactment group at the more historical end of the spectrum) website where you'll see numerous pictures of chainmail:

    http://www.esg.ndirect.co.uk/Images.htm

    Allowing for the fact that some of their guys could probably lose a pound or two ;-) there's no evidence of a panelled effect at all. The picture you show shows more of a computer moire effect than anything else, the different colours coming from sections of chainmail polished to different degrees and then linked together - again no dark lines delineating horizontal sections.

    I have seen pictures of mail with the sectional effect you have but not those made in the Western style.

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    Sorry may be you didn't saw well couse even in those pics there can be seen lines ... and those are from the site you posted....






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    Is it possible to give the feathers from the helmet of the triarii another colour? Acording to Polybius they wear black feathers, it certainly would help to distinct the helmet decoration better.

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    To my eyes the pictures you've shown show exactly the difference I'm talking about. Here's one side-by-side with your skin:



    Notice how you have widely spaced dark bands which are missing from the above pics. The lines you see in the reenactors' pics above are from individual rows of links which form a sort of corrugated texture whereas yours seem to indicate something different. I only bring this up as there is another way of making armour which does result in exactly the banding you're drawing in.

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    I think the image of the units u posted for comparison is too big , tough placing the same texture on a 512 512 texture type would reduce the sensation of the lines and give a better look to the units ... will try to increase the size to have a high res version to use then to rescale to a 256 256 one....

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