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Dux Corvanus, thank you for the ispiration 
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btw, great job EB guys! no matter what anybody says your mod will be something that all RTW fans will love. Fun and, *cough* historically accurate to a google sense, i'll download it on 1 condition....are you keeping a briton faction? if you are put archers in!!! if you wont i'll sit here and pout until you do 
We are keeping Britons, and don't worry, they'll have archers. Celtic skirmishing forces almost always had archers with them. Why CA opted for them to have slings only, and no archers, is beyond me. Gauls and Britons both will both have archers and slingers though.
heheheh as if Google is an adequately trustworthy method of invalidation...
Until all the world's books are digitized and put on the internet, the fact remains that you are STILL going to need to acquire ACTUAL BOOKS in order to get ANY worthwhile information on obscure -nigh exterminated- pieces of ancient history.
You were lucky McMenamin's reference to TSRM came up at all.
Although McMenamin's publications are a bit light (dictionary is 32 pages), so we tend to use mostly Krahmalkov's publications (500 pages).
This was a thoroughly entertaining thread. Thanks.
Until all the world's books are digitized and put on the internet, the fact remains that you are STILL going to need to acquire ACTUAL BOOKS in order to get ANY worthwhile information on obscure -nigh exterminated- pieces of ancient history.
You were lucky McMenamin's reference to TSRM came up at all.
Although McMenamin's publications are a bit light (dictionary is 32 pages), so we tend to use mostly Krahmalkov's publications (500 pages).
This was a thoroughly entertaining thread. Thanks.
Originally Posted by Ranika:
We are keeping Britons, and don't worry, they'll have archers. Celtic skirmishing forces almost always had archers with them. Why CA opted for them to have slings only, and no archers, is beyond me. Gauls and Britons both will both have archers and slingers though.
ah, so theres going to be no need for any pouting, darn, i do so love my pouting. great job! We are keeping Britons, and don't worry, they'll have archers. Celtic skirmishing forces almost always had archers with them. Why CA opted for them to have slings only, and no archers, is beyond me. Gauls and Britons both will both have archers and slingers though.
"A similar idea to my gaesatae eunuchs. A rain of bloody phalluses are sure to break the most sturdy formation of brave men...
"What's that? Aaaagh! It's stuck on my shield, take it out, take it out, yuck! Yikes!" "It's fallen on my face...!!! (sound of vomit)" "
Well, your idea is fantasy but it won't work. The idea with the fantasy units is to get the 12 year old AOL people playing .
Ca would include it if what ever they throw is wrapped in a loin cloth!
"What's that? Aaaagh! It's stuck on my shield, take it out, take it out, yuck! Yikes!" "It's fallen on my face...!!! (sound of vomit)" "
Well, your idea is fantasy but it won't work. The idea with the fantasy units is to get the 12 year old AOL people playing
.Ca would include it if what ever they throw is wrapped in a loin cloth!
Originally Posted by mongoose:
Ca would include if what ever they throw is wrapped in a loin cloth!
Or conveniently and attractively packed:Ca would include if what ever they throw is wrapped in a loin cloth!
* vomits *
Whats the matter?, *Everyone* knows those dirty stinky smelly barbarians laminated their naughtybits 
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Whats the matter?, *Everyone* knows those dirty stinky smelly barbarians laminated their naughtybits
I'm thinking of doing it myself...would save me a ton of cash in prophylactics... Whats the matter?, *Everyone* knows those dirty stinky smelly barbarians laminated their naughtybits
Originally Posted by littlegannon:
i do not agree that u have made it more historically acurrate i belive u have made less historically accurate and the units name in the orignal game are histoically accurate and u changed them wen there is no need. i have information in book and of the internet that proves that. i think u just want to mess around with game with no really looking at the real evidenceof history i agree u have done a good job but u havent looked at all the history and have made many mistakes.
i think this is just Khelvan's new account, he should be having a blast when he's reading the responses i do not agree that u have made it more historically acurrate i belive u have made less historically accurate and the units name in the orignal game are histoically accurate and u changed them wen there is no need. i have information in book and of the internet that proves that. i think u just want to mess around with game with no really looking at the real evidenceof history i agree u have done a good job but u havent looked at all the history and have made many mistakes.
... This really is a good TrollHe was so fun, I wish he would come back.
I guess I overlooked the "utilitarian" aspect of having sausage pre packaged in watertight plastic...
Littlegannon, in a mod of this kind, many mistakes are made, at least we community help Eb out
Not really
How dare you! *Gets pistol out and fires!*
Nice sig mongoose!!! 
sharpe books are bloody good youve reaad them??
got every single one
and ive read them all, yes they are damn good
and ive read them all, yes they are damn good
Originally Posted by Ranika:
God how I hate 'headhurlers'. Yeah, that's accurate. I spend the first ten years of my career as a soldier killing my tribe's enemies, narrowly avoiding death, probably having been grievously injured at least a few times, and all the while I collected the heads of my enemies that I strived to kill, nearly dying, myself, in the process. Yeah, really realistic that I'll just chuck a religious object and war trophy at my enemy. I've apparently collected so many heads, I just don't think I'll need that many slaves in the afterlife, so I'll try and share. Bleeding hell that's stupid.
God how I hate 'headhurlers'. Yeah, that's accurate. I spend the first ten years of my career as a soldier killing my tribe's enemies, narrowly avoiding death, probably having been grievously injured at least a few times, and all the while I collected the heads of my enemies that I strived to kill, nearly dying, myself, in the process. Yeah, really realistic that I'll just chuck a religious object and war trophy at my enemy. I've apparently collected so many heads, I just don't think I'll need that many slaves in the afterlife, so I'll try and share. Bleeding hell that's stupid.
I had a chance to catch up to the head hurler after he made that statement and asked him one question
"Sir, how do you keep the heads of all your enemies preserved?"
(I found it a bit weird that a barbarian from 2300 years ago could speak perfect english)
"State of the art refridgriator! Got it at SEARS for 2500$, it's a kenmore! Custom made to fit heads of all sizes!!"
He then proceeded to cut off my camera man's head. . .
Originally Posted by littlegannon:
i do not agree that u have made it more historically acurrate i belive u have made less historically accurate and the units name in the orignal game are histoically accurate and u changed them wen there is no need. i have information in book and of the internet that proves that. i think u just want to mess around with game with no really looking at the real evidenceof history i agree u have done a good job but u havent looked at all the history and have made many mistakes.
i do not agree that u have made it more historically acurrate i belive u have made less historically accurate and the units name in the orignal game are histoically accurate and u changed them wen there is no need. i have information in book and of the internet that proves that. i think u just want to mess around with game with no really looking at the real evidenceof history i agree u have done a good job but u havent looked at all the history and have made many mistakes.
The things you run into online...Originally Posted by Zin:
I had a chance to catch up to the head hurler after he made that statement and asked him one question
"Sir, how do you keep the heads of all your enemies preserved?"
(I found it a bit weird that a barbarian from 2300 years ago could speak perfect english)
"State of the art refridgriator! Got it at SEARS for 2500$, it's a kenmore! Custom made to fit heads of all sizes!!"
He then proceeded to cut off my camera man's head. . .
I had a chance to catch up to the head hurler after he made that statement and asked him one question
"Sir, how do you keep the heads of all your enemies preserved?"
(I found it a bit weird that a barbarian from 2300 years ago could speak perfect english)
"State of the art refridgriator! Got it at SEARS for 2500$, it's a kenmore! Custom made to fit heads of all sizes!!"
He then proceeded to cut off my camera man's head. . .
The Celts did actually have Head Hurlers.
yeah, they threw the heads of their pets...
Originally Posted by Craterus:
The Celts did actually have Head Hurlers.
Do you have a source on that? thanks The Celts did actually have Head Hurlers.
afaik 'head hurlers' en masse did not really exist, but throwing the heads of prominent enemy chieftans at their own forces was done. I dont have any evidence except i seem to remember reading about it in latin at some point.
That doesn't constitute actual 'head hurlers'; they weren't soldiers that tried to impair enemies by throwing heads at them. When the Irish besieged Tara to retake it from the vikings, they threw in the heads of the defeated viking army to demoralize, not to harm; the heads were collected afterward and preserved as normal. Throwing heads was likely more of a rare event to demoralize a stalwart enemy or to unnerve. Using them as a military unit is asinine.
didn't hasdrubal's head get tossed at hannibal's camp in italy? give the romans head hurlers NOW!!!! 
Sure everyone used severed heads as demoralising ammunition. That was done in the crusades, by barbarian armies, by anyone. It probably worked too. Not the kind of thing I'd want to have thrown at me.
I think the jobs of all the modders is worth much more praise (if this is something like "reverence" in english), an i mean all (of other games too), that that of the actual programmers, and this one will be great, but because the expansion is to be realised very soon then i'm not sure what are you people gonna deal with that, do you plan to start from scratch, adapt it or just ignore the expansion. Another think the headhurlers are an extremely stupid unit with non logics in it. Even if you could take 100 or more mans heads of an make some weakling among your army to throw them, the heads would never cause any harm, at best they could transmit a desease.... and i remember where do i saw an actual headhurler....it was on Gladiator!!!... and it was a german warlord very fear-inspiring, of almost 3 meters high, wich threw the head of the roman scout to the ground... with the best of the lucks he actually may had hurt some insect, but i doubt it. Let's be serious it could be seriously implemented for the barbarians like a secondary weapon of some units that causes moral damage but 0 FISICAL DAMAGE, so they throw some heads (let's say 10 max) and scare the enemy a little (or put them on the proper war fashion) and then charge or taunt, or after they kill and unit just grab their heads and throw them. But seriously did somebody think that in real life the heads will actually hurt (FOR GODS SAKE!!!)? And about the moral damage... it is very doubtful, i think that if the units varely trembled when seeing their partners being cut in two pieces by two-handed axes or their entrail outside the body, then a dead head of some unknow guy will be like... oh yes another dead well... (Thanks for reading this, very long indeed even for me)
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