Europa Barbarorum Status

**khelvan** · 09-27-2005, 05:49

Originally Posted by Elthore

man, you turned this win-win, into a lose-lose

I hope you meant him, as I did my best to help you guys without saying the things that always get projects like this in trouble. And yet, of course, someone came along and made that cognitive leap.

**Elthore** · 09-27-2005, 07:00

i seriously wasnt asking for a date though...sometimes you let us know when the team runs into trouble, or if something special is taking extra time. that sorta thing is what i wanted. i understand your 'its done when its done' attitude, you make it very clear, but dont turn this into a witch hunt.
im no witch

**GoreBag** · 09-27-2005, 07:34

Originally Posted by Elthore

im no witch

He's lying.

**Malrubius** · 09-27-2005, 07:52

Burn 'im!

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(unless he weighs as much as a swallow, of course).

**GoreBag** · 09-27-2005, 08:31

Originally Posted by Malrubius

Burn 'im!

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(unless he weighs as much as a swallow, of course).

A duck, and if he does weigh as much as a duck, he's made of wood, and therefore...a witch.

**Zero1** · 09-28-2005, 02:08

Originally Posted by NeonGod

A duck, and if he does weigh as much as a duck, he's made of wood, and therefore...a witch.

HE TURNED ME INTO A NEWT!

**jerby** · 09-28-2005, 15:20

Originally Posted by NeonGod

A duck, and if he does weigh as much as a duck, he's made of wood, and therefore...a witch.

i just love that part..
great movie..tough i don't quite understand those french-men..

**GoreBag** · 09-28-2005, 18:16

Originally Posted by jerby

i just love that part..
great movie..tough i don't quite understand those french-men..

What's not to understand about the French? They're French!

**khelvan** · 09-27-2005, 08:35

The win-win was trying to update you guys on our progress without providing an estimate, as estimates cause problems.

The moment you responded with the complete butchering of my post into an estimate, it became lose-lose. Seriously now, what could possibly have possessed you to make that post? What in the world would make you think that could help the situation?

You may not realize it, but I spend a good portion of my time responding to questions dealing with people who take something I say and make out of it something completely unreasonable. First and foremost, calling the one estimate I did make, long ago, a "promise." There is a reason why I have absolutely refused to give any estimates since then.

You are not a witch, but I wish you would exercise a little judgement before posting. It is much easier for me to go back to the state of not telling you anything at all about our progress than it is to deal with the consequences when I give you guys some info and it is termed an "estimate."

Edit: Sorry about the "he" bit, I didn't bother to check the name of the original poster, as I really couldn't (and can't) imagine a scenario where my message was the one that changed the situation.

**Temple** · 09-28-2005, 07:04

Originally Posted by khelvan

The win-win was trying to update you guys on our progress without providing an estimate, as estimates cause problems.

The moment you responded with the complete butchering of my post into an estimate, it became lose-lose. Seriously now, what could possibly have possessed you to make that post? What in the world would make you think that could help the situation?

You may not realize it, but I spend a good portion of my time responding to questions dealing with people who take something I say and make out of it something completely unreasonable. First and foremost, calling the one estimate I did make, long ago, a "promise." There is a reason why I have absolutely refused to give any estimates since then.

You are not a witch, but I wish you would exercise a little judgement before posting. It is much easier for me to go back to the state of not telling you anything at all about our progress than it is to deal with the consequences when I give you guys some info and it is termed an "estimate."

Edit: Sorry about the "he" bit, I didn't bother to check the name of the original poster, as I really couldn't (and can't) imagine a scenario where my message was the one that changed the situation.

khelvan.. i have trumendous respect for you, and can identify with your defensive position, but i think your acting very unreasonable on this.
this person was nothing if not nice, never implied that he/she wanted a definitive date NOW and never posted an ulimatum or anyhig to that effect. and yt you hauled out the catapult, loadd it up with barrels of burning oil and let fly!
i found that uncivil and uncalled for.