Europa Barbarorum Status

[khelvan]

The win-win was trying to update you guys on our progress without providing an estimate, as estimates cause problems.

The moment you responded with the complete butchering of my post into an estimate, it became lose-lose. Seriously now, what could possibly have possessed you to make that post? What in the world would make you think that could help the situation?

You may not realize it, but I spend a good portion of my time responding to questions dealing with people who take something I say and make out of it something completely unreasonable. First and foremost, calling the one estimate I did make, long ago, a "promise." There is a reason why I have absolutely refused to give any estimates since then.

You are not a witch, but I wish you would exercise a little judgement before posting. It is much easier for me to go back to the state of not telling you anything at all about our progress than it is to deal with the consequences when I give you guys some info and it is termed an "estimate."

Edit: Sorry about the "he" bit, I didn't bother to check the name of the original poster, as I really couldn't (and can't) imagine a scenario where my message was the one that changed the situation.

[Zero1]

A duck, and if he does weigh as much as a duck, he's made of wood, and therefore...a witch.

HE TURNED ME INTO A NEWT!

[Temple]

The win-win was trying to update you guys on our progress without providing an estimate, as estimates cause problems.

The moment you responded with the complete butchering of my post into an estimate, it became lose-lose. Seriously now, what could possibly have possessed you to make that post? What in the world would make you think that could help the situation?

You may not realize it, but I spend a good portion of my time responding to questions dealing with people who take something I say and make out of it something completely unreasonable. First and foremost, calling the one estimate I did make, long ago, a "promise." There is a reason why I have absolutely refused to give any estimates since then.

You are not a witch, but I wish you would exercise a little judgement before posting. It is much easier for me to go back to the state of not telling you anything at all about our progress than it is to deal with the consequences when I give you guys some info and it is termed an "estimate."

Edit: Sorry about the "he" bit, I didn't bother to check the name of the original poster, as I really couldn't (and can't) imagine a scenario where my message was the one that changed the situation.

khelvan.. i have trumendous respect for you, and can identify with your defensive position, but i think your acting very unreasonable on this.
this person was nothing if not nice, never implied that he/she wanted a definitive date NOW and never posted an ulimatum or anyhig to that effect. and yt you hauled out the catapult, loadd it up with barrels of burning oil and let fly!
i found that uncivil and uncalled for.

[jerby]

A duck, and if he does weigh as much as a duck, he's made of wood, and therefore...a witch.

i just love that part..
great movie..tough i don't quite understand those french-men..

[GoreBag]

i just love that part..
great movie..tough i don't quite understand those french-men..

What's not to understand about the French? They're French!

[jerby]

What's not to understand about the French? They're French!

..nothing to add to that..
weird people..just like swiss

[Moros]

or...

and The holy grail is a good movie indeed!

Ecky-Ecky-ecky-ecky-pikang zoop boing goodem zo-owli-zhiv!

[khelvan]

I apologize if anyone feels offended, but on this issue I have zero tolerance, and will repeat my actions should this happen again. Let this be a warning to anyone who changes my words into an estimate; I will bring out the catapults and fire the burning oil.

[jerby]

we wouldn't dare to offend an EB demi-god...

btw, what happened to the building issue? is it causing in-game-slowdown?

[khelvan]

Calling me an "EB demi-god," even in obvious jest, doesn't help this situation, jerby. I'm just trying to do my job, and sometimes that means taking the velvet gloves off.

[jerby]

yeah, i understand. i can't even begin to comprehend what it takes to "lead" a project like this..

but what i was trying to say was more like: 'every anticipator here has no buisness in offending you...of all the people here, you get a lot of respect..

and by now, i think everybody saying "estimate" has been so scared shitless of your performace they won't dare to do it again.

[Duncan_Hardy]

I think people have a cheek to demand "estimates" for a free - FREE!!! - mod.

Oh, and

[the French are] weird people..just like swiss

Have you got something against me? I am Swiss, and have some French blood too

[Fenrhyl]

What's not to understand about the French? They're French!

And we are SO pleased when others think about us this way.

[thinks about it a moment]

[has a great idea]

Stop asking for estimates or i bury you under a pile of very smelly cheese. <Maniacal laughter>

[Proper Gander]

I am Swiss...

you're swiss and live in england?
heh, I'm english and live in Basel.

*sings*

I'M AN ENGLISHMAN IN BASLLLLEE

[GoreBag]

And we are SO pleased when others think about us this way.

[thinks about it a moment]

[has a great idea]

Stop asking for estimates or i bury you under a pile of very smelly cheese. <Maniacal laughter>

I was actually just setting it up for when someone said something like, "What do you mean?" I would reply with the line about the "outrrrrrrageous accent".

You mean runny cheese, don't you?

[Reverend Joe]

You mean runny cheese, don't you?

Runny cheese... Brie... Mmmm...

Back to why I came- Khelvan- have we seen the last preview?

[Fenrhyl]

You mean runny cheese, don't you?

Runny AND smelly. We have M4d l33t sK1lLz with cheese (and don't listen to what the dutch say about it, as long as we'll be in the hood they'll only be the second.)

Hé, vait a meenute ! vat iz aboot outrrrageousse accent ?

[Divinus Arma]

Who wants an estimate? Here ya go:

482

[Fenrhyl]

482

Imperial measures or international ones ?

[Malrubius]

Upon the incorporation of Part Two of Spidr's major effort in the area of religion, encompassing 5000 lines of triggers alone, in conjunction with kayap&#243;'s extensive and tireless work in several areas, ranging from ancillaries to traits, I am pleased to announce the addition of another "*" to the Europa Barbarorum Traits and Ancillaries Progress-O-Meter, bringing us to 40% complete status, with all major Open Beta features in place, and except for a few minor tweaks and things (like stuffing in more traits and ancillaries, which goes on around the clock at our factory), making us (traiters) Open Beta Ready (TM).


Party at kayap&#243;'s in Rio!

[kayapó]

Party at kayap&#243;'s in Rio!

Come join the Traiters party...

AQUELE ABRA&#199;O

Gilberto Gil
1969

O Rio de Janeiro continua lindo
O Rio de Janeiro continua sendo
O Rio de Janeiro, fevereiro e mar&#231;o
Al&#244;, al&#244;, Realengo - aquele abra&#231;o!
Al&#244;, torcida do Flamengo - aquele abra&#231;o!
Chacrinha continua balan&#231;ando a pan&#231;a
E buzinando a mo&#231;a e comandando a massa
E continua dando as ordens no terreiro
Al&#244;, al&#244;, seu Chacrinha - velho guerreiro
Al&#244;, al&#244;, Terezinha, Rio de Janeiro
Al&#244;, al&#244;, seu Chacrinha - velho palha&#231;o
Al&#244;, al&#244;, Terezinha - aquele abra&#231;o!
Al&#244;, mo&#231;a da favela - aquele abra&#231;o!
Todo mundo da Portela - aquele abra&#231;o!
Todo m&#234;s de fevereiro - aquele passo!
Al&#244;, Banda de Ipanema - aquele abra&#231;o!
Meu caminho pelo mundo eu mesmo tra&#231;o
A Bahia j&#225; me deu r&#233;gua e compasso
Quem sabe de mim sou eu - aquele abra&#231;o!
Pra voc&#234; que meu esqueceu - aquele abra&#231;o!
Al&#244;, Rio de Janeiro - aquele abra&#231;o!
Todo o povo brasileiro - aquele abra&#231;o!

[Ypoknons]

Holy flying spaghetti monster! Even the under-21 (a month in America is eternity, my friends) can drink EB!

[Little Legioner]

200 models have been made by your factory like team. What is the final situation and what is the aimed count of them?

[Jebus]

*coughs*

EB team, I hereby give you my official fiat to release the Open Beta.

Go ahead.

[jerby]

very kind of you..

[khelvan]

Yay, now that Jebus says it's ok...that's what we've been waiting for!

[Jebus]

I'm sorry I didn't do this earlier, but I was busy trying to get beer out of my hair.

[Alexanderofmacedon]

Hey guys, I'm kind of new to EB, so please don't get mad at such a question

If it's not too much trouble, when is the expected release date of this mod? Will it work with BI only or with RTW without BI?

I would appreciate any info from anyone!

[Reenk Roink]

Well, the fact is that EB doesnt like these "when will it be released" questions much (a little too much overkill) but suffice to say the Open Beta will be released soon, once they tie up all the loose ends. Good things come to those who are patient.

As for the RTW or BI thing, this has already been addressed: the Open Beta WILL be released on RTW, after that is up to the EB team's discretion.

Hope that helps.

[Ypoknons]

Sadly, being new is no excuse for not reading everything in the forum.

1. Expected release date? Never ask that; even if they give it to you it's probably not going to happen.
2. RTW, no BI.