Quote Originally Posted by Sin Qua Non
BTW spies do not confer any counter-espionage order bonuses for your cities, which is too bad.
Sorry

Are you saying that spies in RTW don't perform any counter-espionage function?

I assumed that by placing spies in my cities I was preventing subversion and boosting public loyalty, is that not the case?

Why has that been changed and what is the new mechanism?

In STW five shinobi could virtually guarantee a revolt in any province which opened up all sorts of non-violent strategies. MTW diluted this option forcing more reliance of blunt edged military action and it seems RTW has taken this one step farther still.

Personally, I think thats a shame. Personally I would have liked to have seen an expansion of the non-military options. But, perhaps its not so much that they don't exist as the fact that like city management the sophistication of the game is being undermined by the appalling lack of information in its stragety guide.