Lone Wolf and Cub

[BlackWatch McKenna]

a.k.a. the baby cart assassin.

Was this ever made into a movie? I heard it was loosely based on a japanese folk tale.

I was lucky enough to pick up books 1 thru 45 over the years as they were released by First Impressions as a graphic novel series.

[Minagawa Daimon]

also known as "Shogun Assassin",its a movie released in the states that was a mix of the other lone wolf and cub movies(personally i hate the dubbed copy i have)

...Yagyu i come for you!!!--Ogami Itto

[Choco]

There was also a TV serie by Nippon International in the 70-80's which kicked major Butt!!!

That TV serie "Lone Wolf and Cub" was very realistic and faithful to the original storyline. In Japan that became a major cult and had also incredible succes internationally.

In that time in my contry the serie was also a massive hit. Everybody wanted to be Ito Ogami

Of course in USA nobosy knew about that TV serie because in that time the idea of a Japanese TV serie showing in the American market was way too surrealistic

[Kurando]

[TosaInu]

Hello,

I have a question about the baby cart. I thought wheels were forbidden in medieval Japan, is this cart authentic?



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[Takeda Shingen]

I've seen some of the films it's amazing just what type of weapons are in that cart,the movies were great entertainment.

Michael

[katwomansz]

Quote Originally posted by BlackWatch McKenna
Was this ever made into a movie[/B][/QUOTE]

6 movies actually find out more info about them at www.imdb.com or amazon.com. Or search right on this forum for our earlier discussions. They are all a hoot. The sword action is fantastic and preposterous...but that’s the point!

Kozure Ôkami: Sanzu no kawa no ubaguruma (1972)
(Lone Wolf and Cub: Perambulator of the River of Sanzu (1972) (literal English title))
Kozure Ôkami: Meifumando (1973)
(Lone Wolf and Cub: Baby Cart in Land of Demons (1973))
Kozure Ôkami: Shinikazeni mukau ubaguruma (1972)
(Lone Wolf and Cub: Perambulator Against the Winds of Death (1972) (literal English title))
Kozure Ôkami: Kowokashi udekashi tsukamatsuru (1972)
(Lone Wolf and Cub: Sword of Vengeance (1972) (USA))
Kozure Ôkami: Oya no kokoro ko no kokoro (1972)
(Lone Wolf and Cub: In Peril (1972))
Kozure Ôkami: Jigoku e ikuzo! Daigoro (1974)
(Lone Wolf and Cub: White Heaven in Hell (1974))

[Choco]

The cart has several disposable hidden weapons in the handles like spears, sparrows, darts and I think even a Naginata.

In the TV serie I saw that the Cart had also a fake floor where there was hidden something like a machine gun. In effect it was more like a battery gun with several guns placed together.

So that Cart was the equivalent of 007's one
wheels because

[TosaInu]

Hello,

Is the baby cart authentic? Wheels were not allowed in Japan?



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[Brown Wolf]

Quote Originally posted by TosaInu:
Hello,

I have a question about the baby cart. I thought wheels were forbidden in medieval Japan, is this cart authentic?

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Wheels not allowed in japan?

Where did you hear that?


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[Ii Naomasa]

I am not an expert on the laws regarding infrastructure in old Japan, but it was my understanding that the rules against using wheeled carts and such was only concerned with the major roads, mainly because the over-use of carts would wreck the dirt (and because of rain, often muddy) main thoroughfares. This is the reason palanquins were the main means of transport and why seige weapons saw minimal use.

I don't believe, however, that wheels themselves were outlawed. It would seem odd to deny a farmer the use of his ox cart around his farm, for example. Granted, I don't know how historical a small cart like Lone Wolf & Cub's would be, even before you consider all the weapons he has hidden on it.

[TosaInu]

Konnichiwa,

Usagi Yojimbo, a comic made by Stai Sakai, also shows a cart like used in Lone Wolf. I can't remember that I ever saw a painting or an authentic baby cart from the medieval period in a museum or book. So my surprise is twofold:
-baby carts in 16th century?
-wheels in medieval Japan?

What you say Li Naomasa sama is true, wheels were supposed to do too much damage to the roads. Another issue was (I'm not sure here) that wheels eased transport. So forbidding wheels, together with the instruction not to repair bridges, slowed down troopmovements and reduced the likeliness of a revolt.

If I remeber correctly, only the Emperor was allowed to use a cart pulled by oxes.



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[Ii Naomasa]

Anyone know why it seems nearly everyone in the Lone Wolf & Cub manga series (or at least the recent American reprints) is left handed? At first I thought it was just Itto Ogami and thought it cool that a ronin who breaks away from tradition would perhaps go back to his natural handedness (being a leftie who had to learn to use a sword right handed, I could relate ). But when I started to realize that just about everyone wore there swords on their right side and held their blades with their left hand on top, I began to wonder if it was either some odd misprint, in which case, why would it continue for volumes? Is it just the choice of the writer or artist to make everyone left-handed for some reason?

Or, as the thought just came to me...ARE these full page reversals? After all, if the comics were originally written to be read right to left, then it would make sense to just reverse every page...can't believe it took me writing the question out to realize such a possibility.

Did I just answer myself on this one, or does anyone have more insight into this?

[TosaInu]

Konnichiwa Li Naomasa san,

I know that Japanese manga's have their first page at the back.

It could be that some flipping is done to make a western print, hence right will become left (???).

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[Anssi Hakkinen]

Yes, this is exactly the case. Most, if not all, translated manga is "flipped" in this manner. Due to the nature of Japanese writing, about 99.5% of their publications are read what we would consider "from last page to first page".

And BTW, the Emperor's carriage was actually, at one point, pulled by goats.

[Kurando]

I happened to catch the last 1/2 hour of The Bad News Bears Go To Japan on the family channel today and Lone Wolf was the Japanese Coach! lol, I almost fell off the couch when I saw him!