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    The only joy I find playing as the senate is, that I own Rome, the most advanced city in the game. And because I want to play isolationist for a few years I have to disband my massive army.

    How does the AI upkeep it's pink horde?

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    Taxes from the other roman faction of course....or maybe independantly wealthy business men? Could be church donations of course.....guided tours into the vestal virgins quarters
    Roma must be destroyed


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    And I believe I read somewhere that homosexuality was fairly accepted and fairly common in ancient Greece, most particularly in Sparta. So Siris, most of your Spartans are going to be gay whether you like it or not.

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    I think the issue Captain and hatcat had was with the use of the word 'bug'. A bug implies something being broken/not working as intended. In the case of playing as the senate, there is no bug in the code. It's that the requesite code for the senate to be as fully playable as 'regular' playable factions are is knowingly non-existant.

    Programmers tend to get a bit defensive when they get told they've done something wrong (i.e. there's a bug), when in actual fact the code is doing what it was supposed to, and it's the implimentation or interpretation of the user that's at fault.
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    Ouch Captain. Don't go postal on us now. I don't think he meant it that way. I believe we all know the risks associated with modding the game ourselves and we accept any defects that may come up as a result of own stupidity. Playing as an unplayable faction is probably not a good idea, period. But the option is there, just don't expect it to be problem free.
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    LOL... I work in the software industry too, support for some business software we produce...

    Our devs also get all twitchy when they hear the word "bug"...

    I can't count the number of times a reported "bug" has amazingly turned out to be an undocumented "feature"...

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    Siris...where did you get that Spartan?

    Totally cool. Is is a mod? Did you make him? Can I have one?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Siris
    Who wants to play the Senate, that's gay. Play as the Spartans, their going to rule the world. But in my Empire its no the gayness, their all striaght... or they should be.

    Quote Originally Posted by Satyr
    And I believe I read somewhere that homosexuality was fairly accepted and fairly common in ancient Greece, most particularly in Sparta. So Siris, most of your Spartans are going to be gay whether you like it or not.
    I believe it was actually encouraged, as it added to the bond of brotherhood between fellow soldiers.

    I can't see it working today, somehow ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bardan the Slayer
    I believe it was actually encouraged, as it added to the bond of brotherhood between fellow soldiers.

    I can't see it working today, somehow ;)
    Actually that was a fact in ancient Thebes, a city near Athens. The best troops were selected to form a formidable legion called ‘ieros lohos’ (‘holy legion’ in free translation). They were divided in pares and each pare shared everything (food,bed…) and fought side by side till death. If one died then the other should die too. It was almost a rule that they were sexual partners as well.

    One small note about ancient Greeks being gay: It was bisexuality that was common (and in a more platonic way actually…), not pure homosexuality. Also there was a small tendency towards youn boys...

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    Guess they had nothing else to do but play with themselves.

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    This is probably a stupid question but if i take over rome do the other roman factions automatically become my enemies

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    Quote Originally Posted by Racoth
    Actually that was a fact in ancient Thebes, a city near Athens. The best troops were selected to form a formidable legion called ‘ieros lohos’ (‘holy legion’ in free translation). They were divided in pares and each pare shared everything (food,bed…) and fought side by side till death. If one died then the other should die too. It was almost a rule that they were sexual partners as well.

    One small note about ancient Greeks being gay: It was bisexuality that was common (and in a more platonic way actually…), not pure homosexuality. Also there was a small tendency towards youn boys...

    This is my understanding as well. The Spartans actually had the lowest count of homosexuality/Bi in all of the ancient greek cities. It is suspected this had to do with the fact that the woman underwent much of the same training as did the men and in certian cases did so together, combined with the fact that Spartan women were actually allowed out of thier houses (unlike most of the other greek cities) and except for the meal times (in which all soldiers of Sparta took meals in 'meal houses' or for lack of a better analogy, an eating club) the family spent quite a bit of time together. This however is largely just conjecture about why they had a lower count as much of what we know about the Spartans comes to us from the Athenians (who had a rather strong dislike for the Spartans) as Spartiates were not allowed to do ANYTHING but practice for war (no trade skills, no being merchants, and no music, poetry or litrature except as it facilitated the effort of war). For all we really know they might have killed or severly punished anyone found acting that way. To the best of my knowledge there are no documents that go into great detail on this subject about the city of Sparta.

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    Hmm, when reading this I just realized one thing... Someone wanted to attack the senate... Wouldn't that be possible, if you changed the "ai type" of it to something more aggressive, like the one egypt has. That would probably make them attack the roman houses at some point... Or?
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