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    Question Has Anyone Noticed...

    The option to "wait" (up to 3 times) before before entering deployment what exactly does this do? I have clicked it with no effect. I bring this up because I hear people whine about storm's effects on archery and lack of variation of weather. If you "wait" does this perhaps bring you to a later time of the day when it's not raining or vice versa? Is this the answer to actually getting night battles? Try it out for kicks.

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    I think it's just some option to let you hear your generals speech? de only thing I can think of.
    and I don't think you can wait till night cause there are no night battles in RTW exept in custom battles
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    Changes the weather as far as I know. However, don't expect great results. Weather isn't random, and so if it's raining one time period, there is a good chacne it will be raining the next time etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgb
    Changes the weather as far as I know.
    That is exactly right. This feature is a holdover frm the older games when weather, especially massive fog, could really interfere with armies. Imagine an archer heavy army attacking in a rainstorm: wet bowstrings = archer penalty. Clicking on the [WAIT] option gives you the opportunity to wait a couple of days and see if the weather gets better.

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    It was considerably more useful in MTW, in RTW the archers don't seem to have much of a penalty in rain.

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    While I have never been in the "It's been all down hill since Shogun" camp, the truth is that weather has never been as well done in TW as it was in Shogun.
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    Taking strategic elements out of strategy games is what makes them sell - at least that is what beancounters think - and they call the shots in the end. :(

    I really wouldn't mind a duststorm that does more than look pretty when fighting a horde of pharoah's bowmen - same when fighting other insane archers, could use a little rain with some of the barbarians when the AI gets overly excited about Foresters and that is all you see from screen end to end.

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    When your attacking You get to wait for difrent days,
    3 days maximum i think may be 4

    each day can have difrent weather which could help or hinder either side,
    That is why you may wait for better weather for your attack
    defenders dont get to chose.

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    It is only the "starting weather" that is impacted as best I can tell. The weather changes every 5 minutes or so. So if you are in a climate that starts off with rain or snow, you will probably get snow or rain 5 minutes later, even if you start out with a clear day. (The sky might still appear relatively clear overhead though.
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    It's been all down hill since Shogun. :D

    Seriously tho, you click that button until you see blue sky behind you. If there's already blue sky, then don't click it. If you click it all 3 times and you still don't get blue sky, well then you're just screwed. You'll have to attack in bad weather. Life sucks for you today, haha.

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    No, bad weather can't stop anybody in Rome anymore, unlike Shogun, and a bit less important (but still more) in Medieval.

    These ancient peoples are too ingenious. No storms or sandstorms or massive Tsunami would stop the foresters and pharoah's bowmen to shoot effectively against their hated human opponents.

    It's just an eye candy now.

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    The reason it was so important in shogun was the high use of muskets! Since gunpowder weapons were pretty much useless in MTW, the weather didn't have quite such a drastic effect. If you have a musket heavy army in shogun, rain could make the difference between success or a devestating defeat.
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    How do you think bowstrings react to humidity? They aren't made of synthetics or steel like now, rain could really ruin a bowstring - and depending on the manufactur the bow itself. It'd still shoot and would be deadly, but it wouldn't be what you'd want to go to war with if your counting on it.

    I'm guessing the effects are hardcoded for weather?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelson
    While I have never been in the "It's been all down hill since Shogun" camp, the truth is that weather has never been as well done in TW as it was in Shogun.
    I miss attacking enemies hiding in forests while the field is covered under darkness and heavy rain . Not to mention, actual blizzards in STW.

    I've seen 1 or so snowy weather in MTW but nowhere as frequent.

    On occassional thunderstorms, then you can only see the enemy samurai. RTW could use this!!

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    The weather is always the same on RTW, just depends on where you are. Like on my campaign, most of my battle i bother playing are on the steppes, and it's always snowing or raining there. Now if i go down to the south, in Asia Minor or the Balkans, it's nearly always sunny.
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    I think the biggest change in the weather effects pertain to persistence. Weather was much more prolonged in Shogun. Rain could be light, moderate or heavy and last through the whole battle. Archery, visibility and fatigue were all influenced. Teppo were ruined of course but the rest of the troops suffered as well. Wind, fog and cold were common and significant too.
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