Frustrated with lack of competition!

[Rob The Bastard]

Well said sweetzero!

Everything except the bit about " whining "...

[Tomisama]

I've been working with CBR to bring the gameplay in barocca's STWmod for MTW/VI close to what it was in original STW, and it's quite close to that now.

Yuuki-san

All I ever wanted was 13th century Japan and honorable people to play with. Is there a discussion somewhere about the above project? I have been looking but can't seem to find anything.

[Emperor[1G]]

Yes, I really want to take the time to type to people who constantly cuss and whine about the game. I want to take the time out to help someone who ridiculous me for using onagers, or elephants, or fire arrows, or Egyptians. I really want to take the time to type in a room of 200 people, a good many which constantly spam simply to flood the channel.

Yes, all these wonderful people. I have given tips, know what I get for my trouble?
"stfu noob" "you suck" "you dont know crap" "whatever you got lucky"
I do refer people to our site where they can get articles and audio's that will help them in their game, far more then YOU do sir. Then again, what did I expect? This is a forum afterall, which means its bound to be populated by children who troll to start flame wars. Get over yourself Sweet, troll elsewhere, I have no time for kids like you.

[Colovion]

I wanted to play RTW online a lot more than I do now (not at all).

I'm waiting for the patch before I continue playing any form of RTW. The more I play it the more I'm annoyed with the problems.

[sweetzero]

I wasn't trying to start any sort of "flame" war with you Emperor. I was trying to point out the reasons why this game hasn't advanced yet. I shouldn't have put whining as Rob pointed out and for that I am sorry.

I am a member of RTK and one of our guidelines is to make the gaming experience enjoyable for all. If you are so unhappy with this game try to come up with someway of getting more players up to your level. If we just let the new players in TW drift along they will hardly improve.

STW and MTW were both great multipplayer games but against inexperienced players they too were tedious.

[Emperor[1G]]

yes yes, I know of RTK. We beat you 2v2 on Saturday night, all we got for it was flames about using fire arrows and artillery. I think you need to review your clan charter then, because what we were subjected too sure as hell wasn't "guidelines is to make the gaming experience enjoyable for all."

I will be the better man and simply ignore you. You bring nothing positive to the table, and this thread and the game 2 nights ago is proof enough for me your clan isn't mannered in the least.
Edit: RTKLeonidus was one of the names in the game I remember, can't remember the other RTK.

[Rob The Bastard]

Thanks for apologising, sweetzero.

Emperor[1G] your comments are as unwelcome as sweetzero's was.

Tone it down or this thread will be closed.

[CBR]

Yuuki-san

All I ever wanted was 13th century Japan and honorable people to play with. Is there a discussion somewhere about the above project? I have been looking but can't seem to find anything.

AFAIK there is no thread about it. Barocca didnt finish his mod and Yuuki decided to correct some of the errors in latest version and balance it so it would be close to original STW (as Barocca wants it to be). We have talked about making another era for something close to MI but not sure.

I can start a thread about it and we can see what people wants.


CBR

[Voigtkampf]

Personally, I believe to hold a rather unique stand among the MP players.

Though I never played M:TW or S:TW online, I did play Rome, and was confronted at once with a multitude of “no art no elephants” game titles. I joined any that I could - with the “failed to connect to host” problem you aren’t very picky about your opponents and games, right? - and have always played by the rules. Ones I have double-clicked a game to join and joined another one instead; in this 2vs2 flat terrain game art wasn’t allowed, and people started basically yelling at me “NO ART NO ART”!!! Too beaucoup, ok, I get it, no problem; I took my one unit of catapults, deployed it at the end of the space and faced it to the edge of the map, so it wouldn’t ever get a chance to fire accidentally upon anyone.

I was stricken how repulsive people are towards the artillery a lot of times.

Funnily, last time I played I joined 1vs1 game saying “no art”. I didn’t take any art, of course, since I always respect the rules of the host; then the other guy rushes me with elephants, and I simply had to laugh out loud.

Other match I played was 2vs2; the two opposing armies were composed solely out of cavalry and they rushed me and my ally. We were wiped out in a matter of minutes.

Now to my stand; anything goes. Also, and this may sound pompous, but it is how I truly feel, I believe that people that overly complain on art and elephants are simply unable to find proper tactics against such weapons. I never complain that my opponent had an army composition that I didn’t expect; I see it as my own failure to respond to his tactics. Have an elephant only army, five pieces of art, whatever you want, your free choice. I must stress once more that I always respect the rules of the host.

Last time I was hard pressed from a Eggy chariot-archers army; I found no proper way to ward off their attacks with the army composition I had. However I see no reason why should I press people to play with those units I find more comfortable for me.

So, I don’t complain upon whatever my opponent chooses to play with, as long as he doesn’t cheat. Furthermore, if we ban art and elephants, the already unit-poor Rome will become even poorer than this. I can however understand that the clan wars are fought without artillery, much like there is only one sniper per squad limit in almost all CoD tournaments, but, once again, I never ban any unit from my games.

[Louis de la Ferte Ste Colombe]

One issue with artillery was that you can target the ennemy general, get lucky, kill him, and the game is virtually over.
And there is not a single thing that the player facing artillery can do to avoid that.

So, with one lucky strike, you can give a -2 morale to all enemy unit before even starting the fight.

In MTW, that was thought to be unbalancing. Not so much because it was overpowered (I don't think artillery kills per itself would justify the cost or using a slot in MTW), but because of general sniping.

In RTW, artillery is better. There is still no way to counter an artillery unit targetting your general; either you are lucky, or you are not.

The one thing I don't know is either general death gives a permanent morale penalty or not.
If it does not, then please kill my general, for all I care. And then I won't mind artillery too much.

There is a counter to elephant rush. There is no counter to a boulder coming to your face before you can even move.

I don't play with Artillery. If you want to bring some, fine, please do it, but don't expect me to play the game with any regard to seriousness or fun; you'll get what you want; I'll rush.
Do we really want to play this game like that?

Louis,

[spacecadet]

Voightkamph, no one is stopping you playing with artillery and elephants with other likeminded people, but you cant deny that when someone hosts a game that says no art or elephants and then 1 person takes 1 fully boosted elephant and someone else takes 10 artillery pieces that its very very annoying. Like Louis says, unless you dont know what your doing, artillery means a rush game...

Most of the veterens have stopped playing Rome unless all those strange names are undercover, which i doubt....although it may have changed since i stopped playing (nearly a month now).

[Dionysus9]

First of all, if you are looking for competition-- look in MTW, not RTW.

Jack Russel and I were online in MTW last night, with only 15 other people on the server. The pickin's were slim so we started giving people a 10-20% advantage in florins (like 16k vs. 20k).... too bad you cant do that in RTW.

You cant do that in RTW because hte damn florins are fixed. grrr.