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    PapaSmurf Senior Member Louis de la Ferte Ste Colombe's Avatar
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    Default Re: Frustrated with lack of competition!

    One issue with artillery was that you can target the ennemy general, get lucky, kill him, and the game is virtually over.
    And there is not a single thing that the player facing artillery can do to avoid that.

    So, with one lucky strike, you can give a -2 morale to all enemy unit before even starting the fight.

    In MTW, that was thought to be unbalancing. Not so much because it was overpowered (I don't think artillery kills per itself would justify the cost or using a slot in MTW), but because of general sniping.

    In RTW, artillery is better. There is still no way to counter an artillery unit targetting your general; either you are lucky, or you are not.

    The one thing I don't know is either general death gives a permanent morale penalty or not.
    If it does not, then please kill my general, for all I care. And then I won't mind artillery too much.

    There is a counter to elephant rush. There is no counter to a boulder coming to your face before you can even move.

    I don't play with Artillery. If you want to bring some, fine, please do it, but don't expect me to play the game with any regard to seriousness or fun; you'll get what you want; I'll rush.
    Do we really want to play this game like that?

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    Voightkamph, no one is stopping you playing with artillery and elephants with other likeminded people, but you cant deny that when someone hosts a game that says no art or elephants and then 1 person takes 1 fully boosted elephant and someone else takes 10 artillery pieces that its very very annoying. Like Louis says, unless you dont know what your doing, artillery means a rush game...

    Most of the veterens have stopped playing Rome unless all those strange names are undercover, which i doubt....although it may have changed since i stopped playing (nearly a month now).

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    First of all, if you are looking for competition-- look in MTW, not RTW.

    Jack Russel and I were online in MTW last night, with only 15 other people on the server. The pickin's were slim so we started giving people a 10-20% advantage in florins (like 16k vs. 20k).... too bad you cant do that in RTW.

    You cant do that in RTW because hte damn florins are fixed. grrr.
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    The best you can do is start handicapping yourself by not spending all your florins, or giving the defenders a huge hill to defend.
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    Emperor you must be commended by the work that you have put in making the audio commentries and videos that you have produced.

    Unfortunately the tactics that you are employing at the moment are not very sophisticated and not an ideal model to be showing novice players.

    One video in particular where you are camped up a hill with 3 onagers, 3 units of war elephants. some spear units and a few cavalry units is probably the easiest way to win a game and not to offer yourself any sort of challenge.

    I'm afraid you are not going to get much more from this game and you will be best served to move on to something like "Battle for Middle Earth" when it is released.

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    sweetzero, you're ignorance knows no bounds. You have no idea the audios I do, and are basing your assumptions on ONE game. Perhaps you should download the one i did tonight, or the others posted? How about send a replay worth doing, or better yet, do it yourself? Try contributing before you start condemning. I'm afraid you're not going to get much from these audios or this game, and I think you'd be best off waiting for Imperial Glory when it is released.

    Ah, so we're only good because of Onagers? Im impressed you can make that assumption without having ever played/seen me play. More ignorance. Our games are played in BOTH formats, and to limit the game with lame rules is ridiculous. Field artillery, i.e. catapults and balista, were used in real life warfare, and are included in the game for a reason. If you are going to place those kind of rules, then you are limiting the aspects of the game. All but handful of factions have the ability to use onagers, so its not like only ONE faction has that advantage.

    Furthermore, any player with a modicum of common sense will deploy his general OUT OF RANGE of an onager, not to mention dispersing their armies. Watch a replay of mine if you want an example. Elephants, same deal. People are limiting the game, and blaming their losses on units instead of their inability to deal with those units. Carthage lacks shock troops, GOOD heavy cavalry and any kind of decent ranged unit. They require Elephants to be viable, and thats leaving history out of it. Did it ever occur to you it requires 200 deniarri for one pig unit to rout a 3000 denari elephant? Elephants are easy to counter.

    I saw a game the other night that was "No art, No ele, No Egypt!" So I am to assume that anyone playing Egypt is also breaking rules and has no skill. Gotcha. Anyone who masses 10 art units is easy pickings even to the novice player. A poor excuse.

    Cheetah, flame baiting is bad enough, but when you're the mod of the site thats even more reprehensible. Your very post embarrasses this site.

    I don't worry myself or lose sleep over "making friends on the internet."
    Apparently it is impossible to have a serious discussion even here, as people like Sweet and Cheetah are more interested in creating an environment of hostility and tension then in furthering the idea. Its not like you were FORCED to post in this thread. This entire post has been hijacked and twisted, the very point of which has been lost. The fact that a mod is able to threaten and run this like a gulag is as amazing to me as it is saddening. I had thought better of you.
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    Default Re: Frustrated with lack of competition!

    I am the sole moderator of the Rome and Medieval multiplayer forums of the Org.

    No other moderator interferes with how the RTW MP 1,Barracks and The Jousting Fields are managed.

    Decisions to close or leave topics are mine alone... should I close a thread that may allow members to reconcile?

    I feel regret that, in this instance, I waited to long.

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