Hi all! Haven't posted in a LONG time, but have still been playing MTW and picked up RTW a couple of weeks ago. Agree with just about all the issues posted here, but what REALLY bothers me is the cumulative effect of all the problems. We have Super Elephants, lots of individual unit stat issues, suicidal generals, more complex diplomatic options (with seemingly random results), V&V issues, etc.

Any small subset of these I could probably deal with without a lot of fuss, but while playing I always have a nagging suspicion that there are a multitude of random & bizarre things going on "under the hood". The complexity is nice, but only if there is some rational method for implementing it. Might as well have a Panzer Division attacking the Legions out of Germany, or a Fast Attack sub prowling the Med sinking Biremes at will-- not a lot worse than some of the bizarre things that have happened on campaign.

Guess the bottom line for me is that I want to feel as if I am playing a "rational" system, not just outlasting a bunch of random events. I may be off base, but I always seem to be just waiting for the next goofy thing to happen-- which ruins the immersive feeling and that just isn't worth my time. Also disappointed that a lot of this wasn't caught in playtesting (not asking for perfection but I'm a pretty casual gamer and some of the stuff is so obvious ...).

But I still have hopes for this game-- maybe the patch can correct enough of this stuff to give me back my illusions! Until then, it's back to MTW.

--Swordsman