Definitelly!!!Originally Posted by Urnamma
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Definitelly!!!Originally Posted by Urnamma
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Also important to point out is that the subkingdoms of Ulster and Laigin, while existing, didn't have those names. Ulster was likely called Voluntii, after a British tribe that had settled it, and Laigin was Menapii, a large Gallic originated tribe (Menapia was their main town).
Ní dheachaigh fial ariamh go hIfreann.
with regard to Britain....or Wales to be more specific...
I,personally ,think there should be a North/South divide(Some things never change!)...Ordovices in the North and Silures in the South...
Caratacus was a leader of the Silures who fled to the Ordovices during his war against Rome.Both tribes actively pursued an anti-Roman policy...To say one is more relevant in history or power would be wrong!
They were equally pre-eminent in Wales and both resisted Rome into the 70s AD...hence the need for Legionnary Fortresses at Chester and Caerleon.....
Surely a testimony to the trouble they both caused Rome?
I believe during 270 BC though, the Siluri were a fairly small tribe, that only control a tiny portion of Wales, around what would later be the kingdom of Gwent. Anyone know just how much land the Siluri occupied during this period?
If they are relatively small and ineffectual during the period of Rome: Total War (270 BC-14 AD), it'd be almost like the addition of the Iceni province, but that was agreed against.
Last edited by Ranika; 11-11-2004 at 09:47.
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I was thinking of putting Siluri, Iceni and Catuvellauni as rebels in respective provinces of Ordovices, Trinovantes and Coritani. This should be fair for the period, I think
I'm still not here
I could the Siluri as rebels more easily than as a seperate province, as if they were, they'd be tiny. The Catuvellauni should be included in some respect, and I think that works. Would opt for them to have a province instead of the Coritani, but can't see the Catuvellauni being 'allied' in the manner that the Briton faction would represent, in its earliest stages.
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Actually...In history...The Siluri were considered to be more powerful than the Ordovices.....and controlled most of South Wales,not just Gwent!
By the way...got a map of Ancient Britain(You've probably sourced it already?But not sure how I attach it to my post?
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