@Kommodus:

you pretty much exactly stated how i feel about build/fight rts's... i still find them fun, but i much prefer that base construction/army recruiting should be seperated from combat. that's why i always enjoyed myth2, ground control, etc... i guess the only difference of opinion i have with a lot of the posters here is that while i prefer the TW style of play, i still find classic rts gameplay to be fun as well. BFME and Dawn of War are two recent examples of fairly straightfoward RTS gameplay that manage to be pretty damn fun regardless of their design faults. i just get annoyed with the sort of genre snobbish attitudes seen around here... the whole 'Meh, I'm too l337 for RTS.' thing.