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    Default Re: Bug??? when defending Against sieges??

    I must admit I've not noticed this happening to the AI but then i haven't been monitoring it closely.

    However, it does sometimes happen to me. I have had several instances when the seige equipment I've built has not been available once I start the seige. Its almost always seige towers and ladders that go missing, so far I have never lost a Sap and I never bother building battering rams.

    I can't say I've checked this thoroughly but I think this happens if you build seige equipment which none of your troops are able to use. I think I'm right in saying that only certain classes of heavy infantry can man ladders and seige towers at the start of a seige and if you don't have any or you don't have enough then the game lets you build the equipment but doesn't place it on the battlefield.

    I have no idea which Gallic units are able to use ladders and towers but I've had it happen with Roman armies that do not contain enough legionnary units so its probably more likely with Gauls where the mix of troops types is more diverse.
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    I have been hit with AI with no siege weapons. ALl they did was stand there for the duration of the fight.
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    Didz, I think it's probably due to one of two things. First, ladders don't work on stone walls of large or epic size, but for some reason you are still allowed to build them. If you build them, they won't show up, and I've learned to check for this. However, the second possibility is purely bad timing. While the game doesn't seem to let you build anything new during a siege, it does seem to let the city finish something that already started construction. I think it's happened to me once (because I have learned to check the wall size before building ladders), where when I started building equipment it was a "stone wall" but the next turn when I assaulted it was a "large stone wall". So it appears that the AI finished constructing the wall while I was busy building the siege gear, and that might be why it didn't show. I can't confirm that, because I wasn't paying strict attention at the time, and I could easily be wrong about it. I just usually check before building to make sure I'm not wasting time on gear that won't show up.
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    To answer the topic question. The A.I. does'nt have siege equipment when you sally. My guess for the reason to this is 1 the A.I. is probably not good at deciding when to drop there equipment wich makes them vulnerable to an attack. And the second reason the human could probably too easily lure the A.I. from there siege equipment and then destroy it. Since you destroyed there siege equipment they'd have to spend another turn rebuilding it. Now it's historically accurate for sallies to destroy siege equipment it would probably be way too easy for thehuman to do it to them every single turn.

    QUILLAN was it Rome where this happened, because Rome's walls seem to be a little different and the siege towers seem to be a bit different to accomadate this. As once you have a town under siege all construction and recruitment stops.
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    It has to be a bug. I've seen it as well. I've sallied out and found the AI's gear was nowhere to be seen. Of course, when the AI sallies, you are on the map manning your gear.
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    Default Re: Bug??? when defending Against sieges??

    No, Oaty, it was against Pontus. I had besieged the city of Sinope. As I said, I can't be 100% positive, because I wasn't paying that close attention to it at the time, but I usually check to see what the walls are when I start building siege gear, and here it was time to assault and I'm facing large stone walls with only 2 siege towers, and missing the 5 ladders I had built.
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