View Poll Results: What should replace the Aetolian League/Former Greek City States

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  • One city state/province playable - See below and specify

    3 9.68%
  • Allied Hellenes (Athens, Sparta, & Rhodes)

    21 67.74%
  • Epirus c. 270 BC

    1 3.23%
  • Eprius c. 275-273 BC

    2 6.45%
  • Epirus/Magna Graecia c. 290-280 BC - See below and specify

    1 3.23%
  • Other - Explain

    3 9.68%
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    Default Re: New faction to replace the Aetolian League/former Greek Cities

    Would it make sense for Sinope or Trapezous or Emporion to join Aitolia all of a sudden? We aren't dealing with theory only here, but a game engine that has a lot of odd and interesting but also restrictive things in it. Having this Chremonidean alliance also allows for a much more reasonable experience in respect to things like that.

    If the Aitolian league were the one in the game, there would be no unit of spartiates recruitable, and one big new thing we have for the next build that we haven't revealed yet would have to be thrown out as well. The govt systems would have to be redone for sure - at least the top two forms. We probably would not have quite as many ethnicities either, though some would creep in for sure, but the KH form lets us have lots of different ethnicities.

    I wouldn't argue that it is likely that the alliance would have held together for good or for a century or anything like that, because it didn't, but it's possible, and given the situation in the first ten years of our mod's existence, it's a good setup for us to base the faction in. It is also unlikely that the Baktrian empire once it has grown much in size would have split apart too as it did quite often, but if we are going to get rid of all factions who did not hold together large empires in reality througout our mod's timeframe, then we will have to chuck out a lot of them. If our mod started ten years later also, we probably would not have this starting situation with the greeks though, I would definitely concede that.

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    Default Re: New faction to replace the Aetolian League/former Greek Cities

    This is an interesting discussion, but IMHO I don't think the mod's pourpose is to replicate history exactly as it happened....In that case the replayability of the mod would be considerably reduce...because after all,history "happened" in only one way (another thing is the different interpretations of facts). Also in order to replay history you would have to lose on pourpose when your time to pass away as a nation/empire comes...(Imagine Carthage players...ok game's over...time to lose the third punic war)

    I think the point of the mod is reproduce the CONDITIONS of the time (within the engine limitations) and let us players recreate some scenarios with a "What if" approach...so, in this case it would be "what could have happened if a Spartan-Athenian-Rhodian Alliance COULD HAVE held together"

    just my 2 cents anyway.
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