View Poll Results: What should replace the Aetolian League/Former Greek City States

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  • One city state/province playable - See below and specify

    3 9.68%
  • Allied Hellenes (Athens, Sparta, & Rhodes)

    21 67.74%
  • Epirus c. 270 BC

    1 3.23%
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    2 6.45%
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    1 3.23%
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    3 9.68%
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Thread: Koinon Hellenon questions thread

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    Default Re: Koinon Hellenon questions thread

    OT, but didn't the king of Armenia die at Gaugamela, even as Darius ran away? Fighting more as allies and friends of Persia rather than subjects?


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    Default Re: Koinon Hellenon questions thread

    Quote Originally Posted by MarcusAureliusAntoninus
    OT, but didn't the king of Armenia die at Gaugamela, even as Darius ran away? Fighting more as allies and friends of Persia rather than subjects?
    Its a bit iffy as to whether he died or not, but I'm not entirely acquainted with the dispute. Of interest is that Darius III Codomannus was, before he was called to duty as Persian King, the satrap of Armenia for sometime, interrupting the Orontid dynasty (Yervanduni). It was Orontes II (Yervand) who is said to have died at Gaugamela. There are certainly some interesting articles on this subject, particularly the more important one of whether Hayasdan was a true satrapy to Alexander (Hammond even argues that some of Alexander's troops were campaigning in Hayasdan). In contradiction to that seems to be the evidence that after sending Mithrenes, a persian (perhaps even the son of Orontes II (Yervand)), to be Satrap of Armenia the greeks later sent one of their own, who ruled for a year before he was ousted and Mithrenes placed back in power. Doesn't sound to Satrapy to me, though knowing the Orontids (Yervanduni), they often rebelled against their so called masters and got away with it.

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    Default Re: Koinon Hellenon questions thread

    The geography might of had something to do with that.
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    Default Re: Koinon Hellenon questions thread

    might've had a lot to do with it.
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    Default Re: Koinon Hellenon questions thread

    OK how about this for KH:

    Why can't u script events which causes the leage to break appart? And forces you (as Sparta for example) to exert your City's hegemony over the other Greek cities. IF you take too long, then Anthens and Rhodes will start to carve thier own empires.

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    Sparta at that time was too weak to do this. If somethin g similar was done it should be Athens.

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    Yes, that is the other problem - as an alliance it is strong enough to justify a faction, but I would feel pretty certain that they would not merit a faction themselves. It's really tempting to put the Agiad king of Sparta for 272 in also though. I've been pondering that possible addition.

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