Population Extermination

[b3rb0m4tiXX]

I'm an experienced S:TW and M:TW player, and when I started playing RTW lately, I was relieved to see the "exterminate populace" option. Especially in M:TW, I was frustrated by waging an extremely costly castle assault, siezing the province, and then having it rebel a couple turns later due to unrest.

This has happened in many of my games as the Selucids on H/VH, especially with the Scipii's cities in Carthage and Capua. This causes my Armoured Elephants, Companions, and Silver Shields to be tied down in garrison duty, where riots chip away at their unit numbers as much as the actual battles.

Why isn't there an option for total, Carthage-esque destruction within RTW?

Cities could be totally sacked - destruction of latifundias, imperial palaces, and other indestructible buildings included - populations entirely exterminated or sold into slavery, etc. The province would be of no value to you economically as soon as you "Carthaged" it, and it would become an unclaimed territory (giving players an incentive not to "Carthage" except in the capitols of bitter enemies). If you chose to rebuild the province later on as a colony, pay some prohibitive amount of denarii and fork over the desired number of people from a large (squalor-filled) settlement, and let that be that!

BTW, if this has already been addressed, just shake your head, mutter "stupid n00b", and go on. Sry if that's the case.

[Colovion]

It has been talked about, but I agree with you.

[Oaty]

I conquered 90 teritories with only 4 exterminations. May I reccomend garrisoning with peasants or any other unit that is the same size as them. If you exterminated the city you should have plenty of time to build it up enough for happiness before the city close in on 20k residents and goes above that.

[b3rb0m4tiXX]

Ok, so I exterminate the population in Capua when I first conquered it. It was a huge city, so it went down to 4,000 when exterminated, I think. So natural unrest, distance from Antioch (capitol of the Big S), and Culture Penalty means that, regardless of how many pesant units I queue up, maintaining order with new recruits is a difficult proposition.

As far as bringing in peasants from Antioch or whatever, it's hard to keep them within reinforcement distance of your regular army. I put the Peasants in a separate army, because I need all of 20 units in the army to win the major set piece battles against a 20 unit Roman army.

I dunno whether it's bad luck, but it always seems that the Brutii or Scipii manage to attack my peasant army first, my regular army reinforcement fails to materialize, and my peasants withdraw. The Roman armies press their attack during that turn and pwn the peasants.

[Yasko]

I am in a civil war as Brutii. My finances is NOT good at the moment with 6 full armys(20 units). So i finance my war with the other factions by exterminating every city i conquer. First of all it makes the managment of those cities easier, no population, no problem. Secondly i make lots of cash thanx to that, ussually i get between 8000 and 16000 dependent on the size of the city.

So it goes like this,
1.i conquere the city,
2.exterminate the pop.,
3.get around 12000 denarii,
4.retrain the units
5.send a diplomat and bribe their army(ussaully 5+ army which i use as a garrision on the conquered city)
6. I move my 20unit army to the next city....back to 1.



PS. i dont make any difference between roman cities in Italy and the others. I exterminate them all. The best one was when i extermineted Rome, got something like 20000 in begining of the civil war, i used it to bribe 2-3 pretty big rival armies.....

[*Ringo*]

I definitely agree that you should be able to destroy anything you like, even governor building, roads & farms etc. It's quite clear that none of these things are indestructible so why can't we destroy them if need be? I guess to increase the effect of culture penalties but that seems a bit stupid. Even Assassin's don't completely destroy buildings in subterfuge missions. Why?

*Ringo*