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    EB insanity coordinator Senior Member khelvan's Avatar
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    Default Re: The Celtic Legions

    Remember, there are -4- Roman factions, so the total of unique units will be divided by four in considering how many unit slots are "taken" by Rome rather than more "interesting" factions ;)

    Right now, actually, the roman factions are way down on the list of number of unique units defined per faction.
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    I vote no on the Celtic legion. The Celtic mercenaries idea might be usable, but should be later in the game. Perhaps triggered by the Marian reforms.
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    Default Re: The Celtic Legions

    Nah. What's the difference who you use as recruits? This would mean we'd have to make spanish legionnaires, german legionnaires, greek legionnaires, and so on... any 'barbarian wildness' you could have got suppressed during the legionnaire training. In fact, I think the 'wild' legionnary would be less effective in a warfare like Roman, which required strict discipline. While the religion and morale can be simulated by buildings.
    And yeah, what Khel said. Rome has little units now, and could use some more diversity, especially since they've already lost pigs, dogs, gladiators, arcani and who knows what else. But I don't think it should be different kinds of legionnaries. That's not the way to go.
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    Default Re: The Celtic Legions

    No and no.

    There can be regional specific Celt mercs but not a pan-mediterranean unit...

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    I have two suggested Celtic mercs in my Briton list, and Pyscho V has suggested plenty in Gaul, I believe. A single 'Celtic mercenary' would not actually represent, at all, the wide breadth of the various Celtic peoples who sold their services to whoever would pay them, considering, depending on where they were from, they used different weapons, had different appearances, different armor, etc. A mercenary from Celtiberia is going to look plenty different from a mercenary from Briton.

    As for Celtic legions, what's the difference between a Celt being trained to be a legionarre, than a Roman? Nothing. I mean, if you take a Roman boy, and trained him to fight like a Gaesatae, is he going to be naturally inclined to try and march in a tight formation? Of course not. The only thing like this I could think of were the 'imitation legions' of the Gallatians, and I don't actually know if they existed, just heard some things about them.
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    "Aye, there's the rub" Member PSYCHO V's Avatar
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    Afraid I'll have to cast my two votes as No as well

    If you go down that track, your going to have a hell of a lot of different types of legionaries. Legions raised in Pontus, legions raised in Greece, Legions raised in Germania etc etc etc ad naseum. I don’t think the benefit warrants the effort even if we had unlimited unit spots..which we don’t.

    Ranika, the mercs I’ve done are for the Gauls. To make some historic mercs for the Romans all you would need to do is add the Teutonic Cavalry and (Gallic) Leus Epos unit (as per EB Gaul list) to the .txt as mercs enabled.
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    Dungalloigh Brehonda Member Ranika's Avatar
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    Default Re: The Celtic Legions

    Aren't mercs recruitable by anyone in the region though that buys them? Or can they be confined to only a single faction?
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    Default Re: The Celtic Legions

    Quote Originally Posted by Ranika
    Aren't mercs recruitable by anyone in the region though that buys them? Or can they be confined to only a single faction?
    arr..good point. Not sure
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