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    This is an issue that seems to be troubling me somewhat.
    I mean, so far, the mighty legions of Rome seem downright well... boring?
    This has to be remedied, otherwise the central focus of Rome: Total War (which is the Roman Empire) will be turned boring.

    Here are some unit suggestions:

    Equites Sagitarii (Post Marian): Roman Horse Archers. Historically used against the Parthians and Sassanids.

    Equites Contaraiorum (Post Marian): Roman Cavalry wielding long lances and wearing heavy armor.

    Palestinian Clubmen (Post Marian): Aurelian used these guys outside the timespan of RTW, but there's no WAY these guys should be left out, they look far too cool.

    http://aandaminiatures.com/details.a...nian%20Clubmen

    Auxiliary Slingers (Post Marian): A good complement for the auxiliary archers. Give them staff slings to make them different.

    Heavy Sword Auxilia (Post Marian): Heavy sword Auxilia. Do as you will with them.

    Anti Elephant War Wagons: Basically mobile spiked barricades drawn into place by soldiers.

    Property Free Legions (Pre Marius Only): In cases of desperation, men without property or slaves were recruited. Because they were used only in an emergency, they were probably alot worse than regular legions.

    Arsonists (Fun unit): In a city where buildings are flammable...

    Rioters (angry mob): Another "Fun" unit, good for plebian rebellions.
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    Default Re: Unique Units for the Romans

    I was thinking of separate 'sappers' unit. It's a real shame sometimes to need to waste your precious legions or phalanx to go underground...

    Oh, and the war wagons were as silly as burning pigs - they were used once and didn't work :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by DemonArchangel
    Palestinian Clubmen (Post Marian): Aurelian used these guys outside the timespan of RTW, but there's no WAY these guys should be left out, they look far too cool.

    Arsonists (Fun unit): In a city where buildings are flammable...

    Rioters (angry mob): Another "Fun" unit, good for plebian rebellions.
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    Who'd of thunk that a game wasn't meant to be fun

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    Aymar didn't mean it was not meant to be fun. I believe he meant, fun alone does not warrant the addition of a unit. Units are to be historically correct. Historically correct units can be plenty fun. However, fun alone (coupled with laziness on the barbarians) is what made so much of the game historically inaccurate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranika
    Aymar didn't mean it was not meant to be fun. I believe he meant, fun alone does not warrant the addition of a unit. Units are to be historically correct. Historically correct units can be plenty fun. However, fun alone (coupled with laziness on the barbarians) is what made so much of the game historically inaccurate.
    Preciselly that, but I'm too tired of explaining it to so many other people so many times...

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    Quote Originally Posted by alman7272
    Who'd of thunk that a game wasn't meant to be fun
    I meant it in a pejorative way and you know that.

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    Sorry :(

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    I wonder whether the Rome factions should be allowed to 'train' allied troops rather than auxillaries. The post-Marian troops in the game look more Early-Imperial than Late-Republican, while pre-Marian Allied-Italian troops are missed altogether.

    I imagine this may have already been discussed somewhere. But should the Romans be restricted to raising Legions at their capitals PreMarian, and in the Italian Peninsula PostMarian, while allowing local allied troops (such as Gallic Cavalry or Allied Hastati) to be trained in their respective cultural centres once under Roman occupation? And indeed should this idea be extended to other factions such as the Successors and Carthagians?
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    "Palestinian Clubmen" !? WTF? ...
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    I still think we should add an Atlantis faction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chemchok
    I still think we should add an Atlantis faction.
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    Default Re: Unique Units for the Romans

    Romans are boring. That why they are boring in the game.


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    Default Re: Unique Units for the Romans

    Quote Originally Posted by Steppe Merc
    Romans are boring. That why they are boring in the game.

    Romans are not boring, it's just that you have cavalry on the brain and the idea of a people relying on infantry alone strikes you as heresy.

    Most of the units in the original post come from later in Roman history, not the period we are working on.
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