Destroying enemy fleets

**Herakleitos** · 12-02-2004, 16:31

Ik don't know if the following is common knowledge or not...

When you engage in a naval battle you have to auto-resolve it. After you win (of course you do), the enemy fleet retreats. This is a pity since I would prefer to annihilate them completely. I found out that if you first block all the 'zones of influence' (red squares) the entire fleet sinks after the battle because it is unable to make a getaway...

**aw89** · 12-02-2004, 17:08

i know, just another thing for the patch i guess :(

**Lonewarrior** · 12-02-2004, 18:13

Yep, I hate when they retreat.

**Empedocles** · 12-02-2004, 18:34

I don't believe it's a bug. It was really hard for navies at that time to completely destroy them in one single action. Many times a small size navy could retreat from a huge one.
I also hate when it happens, but what I believe needs to be fixed is the reach of the retreat. A navy retreating from Sicily could end in Greece in a turn!!! They should have penalties of movement while retreating.

Diego, from ARgentina

**HicRic** · 12-02-2004, 18:40

Originally Posted by aw89

i know, just another thing for the patch i guess :(

I think it's entirely realistic that if a fleet (or indeed a land army) has no line of retreat and is defeated, then they are lost. Definately not for the patch IMHO.

**aw89** · 12-02-2004, 18:45

in a large confilct between 2 fleets (in rtw 10 ships each and more) fully manned, atleast 1 ship should be destroyed!

**ghostcamel** · 12-02-2004, 19:07

Regarding sinking fleets, get the Naval command stars fix first and foremost, without this your admiral doesnt get more than 2 stars.

My seven star fleet rules the waters, i sink many fleets, i dont surround them either. Sure they run away after a battle, but they keep coming back for more, and i keep getting XP :) I may not be able to destroy a fleet in one passing, but the whole eastern sea from Cyreanica in Africa and Sparta in Greece is completely devoid of enemy ships. I have my fleets mostly around what was Greece, and any navy i dont want in my hood gets sent packing. I have about 5 fleets. 1 full 20 ship stack and the rest 10 to 15. I dont even need that many fleets, but once you get an admiral theres no going back.

Besides the AI is useless with boats, who cares if they have a bunch of little fleets floating around.

When this high star fleet attacks(composition is mostly bireme/tireme with 3-4 Quinqs) lets say a lone bireme. The bireme sinks.

Get the Admiral Stars fix.

Oh yea i play on VH/VH, the bireme in my example wouldnt do my fleet any damage. At the very most, 2-10 men, dead.

But naval battles on equal terms (equal number of ships, equavilant ship types dont send a Bireme fleet to kill quinqs!, and equal command stars) are usually very expensive. So i get stars by picking on the little fleets first.

LOL i have about five different spellings for trireme/bireme/quinqs. These have got to be the toughest words to spell ever. I bet even that Jeopardy savant couldn't spell em right.

**Ldvs** · 12-02-2004, 21:28

Originally Posted by ghostcamel

Get the Admiral Stars fix.

Could you leave a link here? It's very frustrating to be dominated at sea on PH settings when you can't do anything but auto-resolve...

**Tricky Lady** · 12-02-2004, 22:23

Originally Posted by Ldvs

Could you leave a link here? It's very frustrating to be dominated at sea on PH settings when you can't do anything but auto-resolve...

It has been posted a few weeks ago: Admiral gain/lose command star fix

I'm not using it, but I think auto-resolving on Hard or Very Hard will cause the AI fleets to gain stars easier than you will.