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    Default Re: Waiting To Take Rome: How To Civl War On Purpose?

    Find a senatorial faction member and cancel your alliance and military access. The senate will then out law you, well this is what I did tp take Rome anyway.
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    Obivously, ignoring the senate missions isn't enough to provoke the war. You need to be popular with the people.

    One thing lowering your plebian rating is your lack of conquests. Send a few of those stacks out and take a couple handfuls of provinces and your popularity with the people will increase, they love a winner.

    I've always tried to perform the missions and still get the civil war because I conquer everything I can reach.
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    Have an militarically-aspiring young lad of around 16-18 years of age be your faction leader and just start attacking neighbouring barbarian factions left and right, enslaving and extermintating them. Dont stop to pacify the cities, just have a backup peasant stack to fortify them trailing behind. I think its in the Senate would fear you more if you have a young faction leader conquering the world in a frantic pace. That's in my experience anyway.

    Wat kinda comp u using anyways? 9 Full Stacked Armies with Huge setting attacking a large/epic stone wall city would definitely kill my comp :(....

    How on earth u managed to pay for maintanance of those armies? Do u own greek/africa or just Gaul......
    Why cant we just get along???

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    Quote Originally Posted by lars573
    Find a senatorial faction member and cancel your alliance and military access. The senate will then out law you, well this is what I did tp take Rome anyway.
    Doesn't work, so I'd like to know how you done it ;-O
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    Btw, your economy looks pretty bad :-)
    I pledge allegiance to the underworld One nation under dog,There of which I stand alone,A face in the crowdUnsung, against the mold
    Without a doubt
    Singled out
    The only way I know

    Stepped out of the line,Like a sheep runs from the herd
    Marching out of time,To my own beat now
    The only way I know

    One light, one mind,Flashing in the dark
    Blinded by the silence of a thousand broken hearts

    "For crying out loud" she screamed unto me
    A free for all,Screw 'em all
    You are your own sight

    I want to be the minority,I don't need your authority
    Down with the moral majority,I want to be the minority

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    Quote Originally Posted by Medieval Assassin
    Btw, your economy looks pretty bad :-)
    And how.
    I pledge allegiance to the underworld One nation under dog,There of which I stand alone,A face in the crowdUnsung, against the mold
    Without a doubt
    Singled out
    The only way I know

    Stepped out of the line,Like a sheep runs from the herd
    Marching out of time,To my own beat now
    The only way I know

    One light, one mind,Flashing in the dark
    Blinded by the silence of a thousand broken hearts

    "For crying out loud" she screamed unto me
    A free for all,Screw 'em all
    You are your own sight

    I want to be the minority,I don't need your authority
    Down with the moral majority,I want to be the minority

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    Default Re: Waiting To Take Rome: How To Civl War On Purpose?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medieval Assassin
    Doesn't work, so I'd like to know how you done it ;-O
    Sorry I left out some stuff, allow me to be clear. The sequence of events that lead to me overthrowing the senate starts about 15 years before the actual event. As the Brutii I had taken all of greece and most of asia minor plus the Danube frontier, I also got Lilybaeum as a result of a gladiator upring there. I get the you have enough support from the people to axe the senate message. Not realizing that the message means in the this turn right now you have the support. I embark on an army recruitment drive, 4 seperate stacks are needed for the first phase of my power grab in Italy. 1 legion for Capua, 1 for Messana, 1 for Syracuse, 1 for Arretium, and one for Rome herself. The legions destined for Rome and Capua are made up of praetorian cohorts and praetorian cavalry with some cav auxilia. A standard legion is going to Arretium and 2 armies of legionary cohort are bound for Messana and Syracuse. fast forward 12 years and all is in readiness. But I find my moment has passed 12 years ago, D'oh, D'oh a thousand times D'oh . So what to do, in frustration I bribe 1 Scipii family member plus Syracuse and Messana. Bribing the Scipii family member sent my senate rating into the shitter, bribing the 2 Scipii cities incured their rath. They gave me 2 messages 1 was return Messana or you will be investigated by the Adille, and return Syracuse or I will be investigated by the Censor. Edited for content. So I sent a diplomat to Rome and told them they were no longer my Allies and that all ties are severed. Then I sent my praetorian army on Rome captured it and exterminated the people Capua, and Arretium too. That's how I got to attack Rome by ending my alliance with the senate.
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    I attacked the Senate as soon as I had Plebian approval. I didn't waste time waiting for the senate to ask for my faction leaders head.
    I must admit I was a little peeved when I brought down my 2 full stack armies and started sieging Rome only to be attacked by a smaller army supported by the garrison army from Rome. I wiped them out ( as they had to climb a very steep hill to attack me ) I didn't get chance to run my cavalry through the streets of Rome as once i'd finished with the battle there were no senate troops left in Rome, so I just walked in from the strategy map ( I really was looking forward to a good fight over Rome.)

    It did however leave me enough troops to march on the southern cities in Italy.
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    Ah bro, there is a reason that the bottom of that picture was cut off, so you fella's dont get jelous at the amount of cash I have stashed away. For an example, Greece in there is down to just four cities, with Thrace dominateing them & Brutii... no clue how the Thracians are whipping so much bu'tay but they have the largest faction lol!

    So I send a diplomat to Greece, and offer them 100,000,000 for map information... even though I see the entire map already, just to hope that one day, I'll get to fight massive phallanx armies with my Roman legion's I'm crafting to perfection, just for an example of my wealth, no need to worry about economy anymore.

    Most of my cities are fully developed, Epic-Stone-Walls rule! I have 10 units of Pratorein (however you spell that) in each of my massive cities, um like 5 cities like that. Four units of Archer Auxilia's, five Roman Calveries, & one Govnorer/Family General. So my cities are well defended to the max.

    I guess that the sole legion in the North that I've crafted that's taken two provinces, and fought three other field armies, will have to continue their work, even though I'd retired them to serving life in the town they most recently took, where they suffered the most losses ever in my militaries history, over 1,000 men of the 3,000+ legion were killed in taking the town, which was the Gaulish Capital.

    Yea, I'm keeping all of my units in production 24/7 (when I'm on). My units consist of what I stated above, good legion outfit's. But the ultimate would be 10 units of Urban Cohort, 5 units of Pratorian Calvery, one General, & four units of Archer Auxilia, but that will take almost twice the time to make. So you can either have one ultimate legion, or two almost just as good legion's like I have.

    Its really hard managing the legion creation from the six provinces that are making them, having to constantly check them to ensure their in production, forming them up, giving them generals, gosh!!! But its going to pay off I think in the end, when the Supreme military might of the Julii march upon Italy & sacqu every single city along the peninsula.

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    Default Re: Waiting To Take Rome: How To Civl War On Purpose?

    I didn't do that.

    Around -195, I got a senate message asking me to off my faction leader, I said screwed them, the next turn I send my faction heir to capture Rome, and then I generated about 10 diplomats, and went on a bribing rampage. Capturing 20+ roman provinces, decimating the Julii and the Scipii, destroying the Senate.


    I don't recommend this unless you have the armies to back it up (15 spare full armies), the diplomats to handle the negotations or the ability to get them within 1 turn of refusing the suicide mission, and the treasure to back it up (near-on 2 million).
    I have issues, angry issues.

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    One stack is enough to take Rome. What possible reason can you have for putting nine stacks there?
    Take the excess stacks and place them next to all the cities of the other factions in Italy. When you take Rome you will be able to take eight other cities in the same turn dealing a major blow before the civil war.

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    How u got so much money? So u own Gaul, Spain and Africa??

    Oh i just remembered, let a sizeable amount of cities rebel from u. The senate will hate u for it but they give u a mission to capture them back. If u do, u get instant People's rating and a lot of negative senate's.
    Why cant we just get along???

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    Default Re: Waiting To Take Rome: How To Civl War On Purpose?

    No, it seems odd that he has so much money yet the cities shown in the screenie are losing money hand over fist.
    He must be using either a cheat or an exploit.

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