Waiting To Take Rome: How To Civl War On Purpose?

[Ziu]

No, it seems odd that he has so much money yet the cities shown in the screenie are losing money hand over fist.
He must be using either a cheat or an exploit.

[Herodotus]

Can you declare war on one of the other Roman Families? If you can surely that will trigger civil war.

[R3dD0g]

Can you declare war on one of the other Roman Families? If you can surely that will trigger civil war.

I don't think you can, w/o the Civil War. One night after much lubrication, I accidentally tried to send a stack towards another Roman faction's town and it wouldn't let me.

[Butcher]

No, it seems odd that he has so much money yet the cities shown in the screenie are losing money hand over fist.
He must be using either a cheat or an exploit.

Well he's already removed the fog of war by the looks of it.

[R3dD0g]

This is the same guy who claimed to have totally loyal cities of 30K+ and berated us on how we were playing so poorly that we complained about unrest and squalor.

BTW, I asked for a screen shot of those cities, but none was forthcoming.

[R'as al Ghul]

Well, everybody plays it differently.
Out of curiosity I'd like to know a few things:
campaign date, number of provinces, total income, total troop cost.
Concerning the massive negative income in the cities we see, one has to keep in mind that units are paid by the cities they are build in. We can assume that these armies were build in those cities.
BTW, the 1.000.000 offer to the Greeks is a gag, you don't have that money right?
I'll be blunt. If you don't want people to think that you cheat, as they obviously do, provide more info and more screenies.

R'as

[Siris]

Everyone has their style of gameplay. I do not play online, but I play in single player with any amount of cash I want. Some times I play with over 1,000,000,000 denarii, or normal play. On my campaign that I played before, I had not given myself any cheat money to start with, and my cities were happy. Its simple, just place a nice garrison of the best troops you've got, and build everything you can, set taxes to minimum, and daily games. You'll see that they'll be happy, and I found that out on my economy based games.

Why do you care if I "cheated with cash" on this particular campaign? I wanted to try the experience without the bogg down of cash, which would have been more realistic to the factions in that time, the leaders main concern wasent how much a unit cost, but how many they could produce. Your sarcasem shows your poor sportsmanship, and I think that you should be warned by the admins for trying to start a feud, thinking that your ego is so great that you must try to put me down from your own misconceptions of your Campaign. Dont forget, its a game, play as you whatever makes you have more fun, so what if someone else does not play as you do, that is their choice, not yours. I see nothing wrong with adding some extra starting cash for a Campaign in single player, and many others dont. Becideds what you posted was off topic and the admins have clearly stated, they do not want that. The fog of war thing I dont know, I turned it off one game weeks ago, now its always off, doesant matter to me, I get to see who is the biggest, etc.

So have fun, and play as you will!

*I dipise players who cheat however, against other players in Multiplayer, that is wrong, but Single is okay.*

[Didz]

*I dipise players who cheat however, against other players in Multiplayer, that is wrong, but Single is okay.*

Well its OK! up to point. I mean fair enough if someone wants to use cheats to avoid or by-pass some of the challenges of the vanilla game then fine.

What you do in your own home and all that

But I have certainly witnessed STW players boasting about their superior performance and accussing others of poor game play because they can't match their speed to victory etc.

Anyone who comes on this forum and starts mouthing off at other players when they know they are using cheat codes is just a lamearse in my book. Its always best to be open and declare if you are using cheats that way there is no confusion.

[R'as al Ghul]

This isn't in response to me, right?
I just assume that you are talking to R3dD0g
or whoever mentioned cheating in the first place.
I really don't care if you cheat, I would just like to know it.
If you hadn't there would have been a lot to learn for me.

R'as

[Didz]

This isn't in response to me, right?

I was responding to the comment in your post, but I suspect you must have been quoting someone else.

I really don't care if you cheat, I would just like to know it.

Yes, that how I feel about it too. It wastes too much time when player start bragging about what they have achieved without mentioning the cheats they used to get there.

[TEP]

Concerning the massive negative income in the cities we see, one has to keep in mind that units are paid by the cities they are build in. We can assume that these armies were build in those cities.

Is that how it works? I could have sworn that unit upkeep cost is distributed among the cities acording to city size.

[R'as al Ghul]

Is that how it works? I could have sworn that unit upkeep cost is distributed among the cities acording to city size.

Well, I guess it was a little premature to utter this theses.
During my campaign I got the feeling that the game keeps track of your units and calculates their upkeep cost against the producing cities income. However, your version makes somehow sense and could also be true. In fact, now you mention it, I've read it myself somewhere. Mmmm, can somebody clarify this?

R'as

[Didz]

Is that how it works? I could have sworn that unit upkeep cost is distributed among the cities acording to city size.

It is how it works and in my opinion its one of the worse aspects of the City Management function as it prevents proper city and army management.

The total cost of your army is actually divided pro-rata between your cities according to population size. Stupid in my opinion.

[Siris]

My capital brinked 41,000 citizens, and the garrison wasent keeping this Campaigns cities population order high, so it start to drop to about 120%. So I built a Pratoreion cohort garrison among other things, archers, etc, and now the order is 210%. So for you guys that cant keep your order in check, just build these units, their not "that" expensive!

I wont be able to play RTW until not this Friday, but next, have to stay home this weekend & go take the ACT. But I'll try the waiting it our portion & move accross Europe, should be interesting.