lol, I had my second Scipii leader live to like 67 and my third is like 38 and both had great popularity with the senate and the plebs so my faction has high senate popularity and is slowly gaining pleb popularity. But since I have exterminated 3-5 cities in the first 50 years they may be a little pissed about that. One thing I love about TW is that your king can still ride into combat when he is 65, my old and now dead faction leader was making suicide cavalry charges three years before his death and was about to siege Dimmidi!